Hello, There was a list plan9-devel iirc, created for the people who write code. But it didn't work.
If you need help from community to make something (port gcc, port R, port that chemistry simulator, whatever), start a project, lead it, motivate the people to work with you, organize the whole project, help others to help you, and probably you will get something. That will happen or not, but it will not start itself. Saying "ey guys i would love to have XXX or YYY" doesn't work. Start doing them, and try to get people involved. Best example, Russ plan9ports. He got a couple of people involved, may be they help much, or nothing, may be some comments are useful, some not, Waiting to see what people is doing, or saying that people is not doing something, leads to nowhere. Time for work, family, etc is not excuse for doing nothing, its excuse for going slow. Best sample, snmpfs. Its a program that a talented programmer will do in days. I have worked on it along all this year, and it is evolving. . . slow. The time spent on it, much less that you can think speaking about year-magnitude, but that's the time i have. You want R? go for it, it took three years to get it, well, you will got it. If you can't wait, you know where to get it :). Some people in this list call plan9 a "research os", and think it cannot be used to work with in their bussines, so they don't spend anything in doing things, just stay around doing what you described, nothing :) Actually looking at /n/sources/contrib you can see that something is being done all the time. There are few people, they are little things, but there are. Speaking bad about them or see them as 'nothing' is not correct. i will remain doing the tools i need, and everyone is invited to coment, modify, fix or do constructive rants about those tools, or just do nothing :) I don't need to rant about others,like, "why isn't jmk doing the driver i need? why russ isn't fixing the bug i found? why rob isn't writing code for plan9? why sape doesn't look at that usbaudio driver i need? why nobody in this community is doing anything 'productive'?" those are all stupid questions that are being asked here over and over again in some differents ways. a non-sense. what will you do? port gcc? go for it! but don't say nobody is doing anything. thats my opinion, if there is someone interested. slds. gabi On 7/7/06, Ronald G Minnich <[email protected]> wrote:
The point of this little exercise is simple: lotsa people talk on this list, but few write code. You don't like it, do something better and cooler. But stop acting like this source code is engraved on two tablets, five commandments per tablet. Write some code! Acme is very changeable, and nothing in this world is perfect, and it's just one piece of the puzzle. Write some code! Rio is cool but not the be-all and end-all of everything. Write some code! ron
