i've talked and worked with some of them in the distant past.  the ones i knew
were very excited about what they are doing and conviced they were blazing a 
new trail.

you tend to get the "but this one goes to eleven" arguments.  as in "this way 
is simplier".
retort: "but this works with our xml parser."

i even worked with (against?) a text search engine that returned byte-offsets 
in sgml. 
the good news was there were no endian considerations.  the bad news was 
everything else.


- erik

On Mon Jul 10 04:34:55 CDT 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I understand not being able to stop yourself when something is fun,
> > but when it is simply drudgery... what then?
> 
> i don't understand it either.  each time i implement one small chunk of that
> big set of angular, irregular syntax, i end up feeling fairly miserable,
> with no feeling of accomplishment.   the WS-* specifications are amazing:
> they present whole pages full of xml, often to do something trivial (eg, 
> establish
> or extend a lease).  miserable.
> 
> still, you're stuck having to deal with more than a little of it if
> you're doing a `browser' (which makes it sound bucolic!).
> 

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