On Fri May  4 05:24:03 EDT 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> having to code anything in assembler is a significant sign of failure:
> if it's on a general-puprose processor, we have failed to educate processor 
> designers;
> if it's on (say) a DSP, it's a bit of a mixture of that and people thinking 
> that
> language design stopped with C, so the language provides too little scope for 
> a compiler sensibly to do the work.

i agree.  however, i think there are some exceptions.  some 
(often 8 bit) architectures are better suited to assembly.
i wrote a hc08 disassembler/ simulator earlier this year.  it's
got 256 bytes of ram and one general purpose register.  
c's overhead would eat into that 256 bytes quite quickly.

before you dismiss it as a silly, old design, note that it is a
usb-enabled soc and costs less than two bucks.  and in 
motorola tradition, all io is mmio.

also there are some things that are just difficult to do in c.
c has no notion of cache-coherence.  so one needs to reach
outside the language to do something like [RWM]FENCE
on out-of-order processors.

are there any languages that deal with this?

- erik

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