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Jonathan,

I've been bringing these issues up over the years with the Plan 9 crowd. I think the real response is that the Plan 9 culture is all about collegial groups and not about what I call Rocinha, the wider world where bad things happen if you don't guard against them.

Wes Kussmaul


Jonathan D. Proulx wrote:
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 06:16:06PM -0500, erik quanstrom wrote:

:i'm not a security expert.  what case that i can't currently see
:would tls solve for me that's worth the extra configuration.
:what am i missing?

It will prevent the username:password pair from being easily
snpooped.  Minimally this would compromise email, which as you say is
inherantly insecure, but howmany of your users have the same username
password pair for other things too (like the plan9 passowrd you wish
to protect).

It this seconday case that is more dangerous, you can blame the users
for overloading their credentials and mixing "secure" and "insecure"
usages, but they will blame you if their email password is also their
bank passowrd.

Atleast those are the things I worry about with my users...

-Jon



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