AS a matter of religion, I ALWAYS save a downloaded
file to a folder I call Awaiting Scan.  I use Get
Right and AVG.  Get right calls AVG to scan the file
when it finishes every download.   Then before I open
or move a file from the Awaiting Scan folder, I always
scan it or the folder again.

On occasion, AVG will find a virus on this second scan
that it missed on the download.  This later detection
seems to occur with zip or rar files.  Apparently AVG
unzips a file for scanning the second time, but not
when scanning a freshly downloaded file.  

Make any sense?

Homer 



--- Alan Winterrowd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Now we have gone to a different area.  Yes, an AV
> program can miss a virus, especially if the virus is
> newer than the signature file, but scanning it after
> you have saved it uses the same engine and signature
> files (unless you have something live CA's eTrust
> that has two separate engines and signature files to
> choose from).
> 
> I can see, however, that there could be a benefit to
> saving the file, waiting a few days, updating your
> signature files, then scanning the attachment again.
>  This is a different scenario than you mentioned
> earlier.  There is still no special benefit to using
> your Desktop as the temporary storage place.  If it
> makes it easier to find and remember for you, and
> you move or delete the files regularly, that would
> be reasonable enough.  
> 
> I use my Desktop to d/l single use files (patches,
> or .pdf's on our older PC's that get bogged down
> trying to print the .pdf directly from the web).  I
> also have a Downloads folder, with a Done subfolder.
>  If I download a file I want to use, I put it in the
> Download folder.  If it is a document that I want to
> keep, I move it to My Documents, if it is an
> executable or zipped file that I want to keep, I
> move it to my Done subfolder, that way I know that
> files in the Download folder are things I d/l'd for
> something specific (helps my occasionally
> slow-running brain remember things.)
> 
> As far as M$ patches, I usually install them
> directly from the website, although some office
> service packs have to be downloaded, then run.  I
> also wait a little while and let others be the
> guinea pigs for new patches, before I use them
> myself.  If a M$ patch has delivered a virus or
> worm, in the past, I must have missed the news about
> it, but then I never did get to see the TO/Desperate
> Housewives bit either (and I was all ready to be
> terribly offended, and watch it a couple of times to
> make sure I was offended properly!  :)
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Janet 
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 5:18 AM
>   Subject: [A-1-Computer_Tech] Dealing with an
> attachment
> 
> 
>   Some may have felt I was paranoid in asking the
> question about the 
>   desktop where I do save an attachment that I want
> to open but about 
>   which I am not sure.  I made the point earlier
> that we hear so often 
>   that anti virus software fails, even with the more
> expensive over the 
>   free.  I have read the point in support that there
> is always the 
>   possibility that one has been caught by a new
> virus or, human failure 
>   in not updating.   I have found these question and
> answers and have 
>   supplied the url/links to support my paranoia. :-)
>   It seems prudent 
>   therefore to use the Desktop to save an
> attachment, or download to 
>   scan it first.
>   I have found a virus in an attachment saved to
> desktop and quarantined 
>   it successfully.
> 
>   http://www2.essex.ac.uk/cs/virus/attachments.htm
>   Q: I'm not sure about an attachment, but I want to
> look at it ... what 
>   can I do?
>   A: If both Sophos and the anti-virus software pass
> that attachment, it 
>   is probably virus-free. But if you are in any
> doubt, you should wait 
>   for at least 2 days before examining the
> attachment. Then, just before 
>   examining it, log out of your machine, and back on
> ... this will 
>   update your pattern file. Then examine it again
> with the anti-virus 
>   software. If is still claimed to be virus-free,
> then it probably is, 
>   and you can safely open it.
> 
>   http://www.hw.ac.uk/cenWWW/help/faqs/faqpcal.html
>   Q: I think I may have a virus in my H:/ directory.
> How do I get rid of 
>   it?
>   A: Use the Virus Checker icon (also available
> under Core Utilities 
>   from the Start button). Once you have eradicated
> the virus from your 
>   H:/ directory you should be aware of how viruses
> can be caught:
>   NEVER read an attachment directly from your email
> software. Save it to 
>   a file first, scan the file with the virus
> utility, then open it once 
>   you know it is safe.
>   DO NOT open files directly within Netscape (e.g.
> Word files). Save to 
>   a file, then scan and open once you know they are
> clean.
>   Check all disks you receive, scan them with the
> virus utility. This 
>   includes disks you get from magazines - some of
> these have had viruses 
>   in the past.
>   Always keep up-to-date back up copies of your
> important files. If a 
>   file you are working on is then damaged by a
> virus, you will be able 
>   to get a clean copy from your back ups.
>   Set Word to prompt you before saving changes to
> your Global Template 
>   (normal.dot). Go to the TOOLS menu and choose
> Options, on the Save tab 
>   select the Prompt to Save Normal Template option.
> Any prompts you 
>   receive from Word to save changes to your template
> may then indicate 
>   you have a virus. NOTE: this is not foolproof, use
> the other 
>   techniques above in addition.
>   Scan all your disks and files regularly to double
> check.
> 
>   Janet ~ UK
>   http://globechatters.net
>   O/S WinXPSP2 Pro IE/OE6 - home user
> 
> 
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