On Mar 24, 9:25 pm, Steve Marriott <[email protected]> wrote:
> I can't see how one could view 'everything' as being an entity; that's
> certainly counter-intuitive if not contradictory.  Moreover, my description
> used the adjective 'distinct' which is intentionally inconsistent with RB's
> description.
>
> My intitial attempt at a definition for prayer is conscious and intentional
> communication with God.  Use of the term 'communication' connotes an
> exchange of understanding between both parties, and was used deliberately.
> In my experience, prayer is less like a conversation as you and I know it,
> but I believe that others may experience it that way.  I expect I'm probably
> not as adept at listening.  Nevertheless, I am personally convinced that God
> finds other ways to communicate what He wants me to know, and is not
> restricted by my inability to 'hear'.
>
> Since you've been in several discussions on the same topic, you probably
> have a better definition for us...?
>

Hmmm...a definition of prayer.

Gimme the day.

>
>
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Bridge <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 24, 7:21 pm, Steve Marriott <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > The Bible teaches clearly that God is indeed a distinct entity, in three
> > > manifestations.  Furthermore, He definitely hears the prayers of His
> > people,
> > > and of the repentant.
>
> > I'm wondering if the words being used are confusing this...
>
> > RB's God definitely is an entity(everything).
>
> > I've been in several discussions where we've talked about prayer.
>
> > What's prayer?
>
> > Isn't just being able to draw breath some kind of prayer?
>
> > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Bridge <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 24, 11:07 am, Steve Marriott <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > 'If the Creator has become our Universe, then we're really talking to
> > > > > ourselves when we talk to "God" -- and isn't that what we're really
> > > > > doing anyway, when we organise and vocalise our thoughts in the
> > manner
> > > > > of prayer? Like Tom Hanks when he was talking to that volleyball all
> > > > > throughout Castaway? We act like we're seeking the help of an
> > external
> > > > > agent, but the very process of formulating the help we think we seek
> > > > > enables us to reflect upon the things we need to (or hope to) do for
> > > > > ourselves, and to some limited extent we may even be able to pull
> > > > > those bits of our Universe around us in the direction we wish it to
> > go
> > > > > -- a capacity that is sure to be mistaken for "God" consciously
> > > > > interceding on our behalf (no matter our faith)...."
>
> > > > > For those keeping score (I'm using this phrase idiomatically), this
> > > > clearly
> > > > > conflicts with the teaching of Scripture, and thus I reject it as
> > false.
>
> > > > Tell me why it conflicts, please.
>
> > > > I find it interesting as well.
>
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