Hi!

I tried TableConvert on tables downloaded with bitorrent (one of them).
When make partition without file system and run ./TableConvert ds 100.dlt
/dev/sdb2 index.dat I get message:
/dev/sdb2 allready exist, will not overwrite.

Can anybody help?

Thanks in advance!


On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:49:29 +0200
> From: ??????? ???????? <[email protected]>
> Subject: [A51] Several ARFCNs at once ?
> To: [email protected]
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> Hello people,
>
> Is it possible to record several ARFCNs at once? Or record some narrow band
> (5 - 10 Mhz wide) and extract offline data for specific frequency from
> band?
>
> I'm reading about frequency hopping and USRP/USRP2, and everybody speaks
> about following up a MAIO and HSN parameters in real time. My question is,
> if BST publicly says that it serves certain ARFCNs (for example 40 of
> them),
> is there a chance to record a traffic from all of them and reconstruct
> hopping and traffic data offline?
>
> Cheers,
> LjubeX
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> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:10:04 +0200
> From: Konrad Meier <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [A51] Please seed tables
> To: [email protected]
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> Am 12.09.2010 10:52, schrieb Karsten Nohl:
>  > Hallo list,
>  >
>  > Many of you have received copies of the 'Berlin set' of rainbow tables
>  > in the mail. We would appreciate if you would contribute to the spread
>  > of the data through seeding the data in Bittorrent. To do that, please
>  > open the .torrent files available on the disk with any Bittorrent
>  > client, 'rtorrent' for instance if you are on a Linux command line.
>
> Hello Karsten,
>
> I added a machine to seed the torrents at the University of Freiburg
> Germany. Uplink is 1GBit. I hope this helps.
>
> Regards
>  Konrad
>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:15:13 +0200
> From: sascha <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [A51] Several ARFCNs at once ?
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <20100914141513.gc4...@test>
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> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:49:29PM +0200, ??????? ???????? wrote:
> > Hello people,
> >
> > Is it possible to record several ARFCNs at once? Or record some narrow
> band
> > (5 - 10 Mhz wide) and extract offline data for specific frequency from
> band?
>
> yes its possible but airprobe currently does not support hopping. It is
> on the todo list, though.
>
> >
> > I'm reading about frequency hopping and USRP/USRP2, and everybody speaks
> > about following up a MAIO and HSN parameters in real time. My question
> is,
> > if BST publicly says that it serves certain ARFCNs (for example 40 of
> them),
> > is there a chance to record a traffic from all of them and reconstruct
> > hopping and traffic data offline?
>
> Yes, as long as they are confined to an 8Mhz or 25 Mhz band (for USRP and
> USRP2 respectively). Or if you have many USRPs, then you can of course
> scan a wider band. The amount of data is quite large: 32mbyte/sek for USRP1
> with 16bit I/Q samples. A real time demodulator is on the TODO list, and
> it would reduce that by a factor of ~ 32.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 01:49:24 +0200
> From: Georg Hofstetter <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [A51] Traffic dump
> Cc: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Am 13.09.2010 18:12, schrieb sascha:
> > reflextor.com/galileo1_a725_d174_g5_KcC07D6E4269C70BB3.cfile.gz
> > reflextor.com/vf_call6_a725_d174_g5_Kc1EF00BAB3BAC7002.cfile.gz
>
>
> Hey, thanks a lot!
>
> I am sure, Veshna and Tim in the galileo1 dump were aware of the USRP
> running nearby ;)
>
> These dumps helped me to test my own tool with fully encrypted call
> setups. Didnt have the chance yet to get hands on a dump with
> hopping-free TCH-assignment.
>
> I previously just tested SDCCH decryption and SMS decoding etc., but
> only with my own SIM card which answered the auth request in a replay
> session.
>
>
> Some question that is aimed more towards the other readers:
> Isn't it quite more comfortable not to share the whole raw 32bit float
> IQ stream, but a reduced burst dump file?
>
> First I thought about pcap, but I think that format would be too
> limiting if it comes to multi-ARFCN recording etc.
> Also embedding metadata (Kc etc) is an interesting feature.
>
> Even when using a simple XML file, this will reduce the size by factor
> ~100 uncompressed and factor ~500 compressed, which is way better to
> backup, stream or record :)
> Here an example containing bursts starting from TN 0 in FN 860910 on
> ARFCN 761. Skipping dummy bursts (here TN 1) reduces the file size again.
>
> <b d="00000000000000000000000000000000000000" a="761" f="860910" t="0"/>
> <b d="15CA2EA70716AF812E112E33369ECC4D22A100" t="2"/>
> <b d="0CCB71F49C4AB8A12E112EB79F97C83ABAFF00"/>
>
>
> Your thoughts on this?
> Maybe there is an even better alternative already available?
>
>
> BR,
> Georg
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 02:36:21 +0200
> From: Karsten Nohl <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [A51] Traffic dump
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi Georg,
>
> On 15-Sep-10 01:49, Georg Hofstetter wrote:
> > Am 13.09.2010 18:12, schrieb sascha:
> > Some question that is aimed more towards the other readers:
> > Isn't it quite more comfortable not to share the whole raw 32bit float
> > IQ stream, but a reduced burst dump file?
> >
> > First I thought about pcap, but I think that format would be too
> > limiting if it comes to multi-ARFCN recording etc.
> > Also embedding metadata (Kc etc) is an interesting feature.
> >
> > Even when using a simple XML file, this will reduce the size by factor
> > ~100 uncompressed and factor ~500 compressed, which is way better to
> > backup, stream or record :)
> > Here an example containing bursts starting from TN 0 in FN 860910 on
> > ARFCN 761. Skipping dummy bursts (here TN 1) reduces the file size again.
> >
> > <b d="00000000000000000000000000000000000000" a="761" f="860910" t="0"/>
> > <b d="15CA2EA70716AF812E112E33369ECC4D22A100" t="2"/>
> > <b d="0CCB71F49C4AB8A12E112EB79F97C83ABAFF00"/>
>
> I like the idea of having the stream pre-decoded for exchange.
> Preferably the raw data would still be kept at the sender espacially for
> noisy transmission with lots of errors in case better decoders become
> available.
>
> > Your thoughts on this?
> > Maybe there is an even better alternative already available?
>
> I think it should be implemented as close to gsmtap packets as possible.
> Who is available to do this?
>
> Cheers,
>
>   -Karsten
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:11:51 +0200
> From: Harald Welte <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [A51] Traffic dump
> To: Karsten Nohl <[email protected]>,[email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Jfyi: GSMTAP already has a provision for carrying raw burst bits. This was
> used early on in its history. Just look at the header file and look at all
> the constants that are named BURST in there.
> Also, as every gsmtap message has an ARFCN in the header, there is no
> problem in having the data of multiple ARFCN in one gsmtap stream or file.
>
> --
> Sent from a mobile device, excuse my short response
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:36:21 +0200
> From: Sylvain Munaut <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [A51] Traffic dump
> To: Harald Welte <[email protected]>
> Cc: Karsten Nohl <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> Message-ID:
>        <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> > Jfyi: GSMTAP already has a provision for carrying raw burst bits. This
> was used early on in its history. Just look at the header file and look at
> all the constants that are named BURST in there.
>
> My latest experience with gsmtap to carry burst data wasn't very good.
> (when working on passive listening with calypso).
>
> Some of the problems I encountered:
>  - No support for different data format
>   (soft/hard bits, with/without the TSC)
>  - sub_type field is re-used for the type of burst. But then you can't
> set to what type of channel/subchannel this burst came from
> (SDCCH/TCH/...)
>  - Can't give the number of the burst (0,1,2,3), so you have to
> guess/reconstruct it
>
> I think it maybe time for a gsmtap v3 ...
> Something more flexible
>
> I was thinking something with:
>
> [header]
> [opt header 0]
> ..
> [opt header n-1]
> [payload]
>
> with:
>  - header having a direct offset pointer to data
>  - Then each header having a pointer to the next header
>
> This way you could have
>  - Data Format header
>  - Cipher parameter header
>  - Physical channel description header
>  - Logical channel description header
>  - ...
>
> And we could add new meta data information without having to rewrite
> each tool each time. Sure the generation / parsing would be slighly
> more complex than now.
>
> But I think that with appropriate helpers in libosmocore, that
> wouldn't be an issue.
>
> Writing precise/defined spec on the wiki would also be a requirement
> because some fields are rather obscure right now ... (format of snr /
> signal_dbm ?).
>
> If there is interest in such a new format, I can start drafting some specs.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>    Sylvain
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:42:22 +0200
> From: "Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [A51] Several ARFCNs at once ?
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On 14/09/10 16.15, sascha wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:49:29PM +0200, ??????? ???????? wrote:
> >
> >> Hello people,
> >>
> >> Is it possible to record several ARFCNs at once? Or record some narrow
> band
> >> (5 - 10 Mhz wide) and extract offline data for specific frequency from
> band?
> >>
> > yes its possible but airprobe currently does not support hopping. It is
> > on the todo list, though.
> >
>
> mmmm but frequency hopping would mean following the ARFCN after the
> information into the paging request.
> So the listening would still be on a 200khz single channel.
>
> Instead would be very useful to be able to get the whole spectrum
> available from the USRP (so multi-ARFCN) being it 8mhz or 25mhz.
>
> The ability of airprobe to decode a single capture file that include
> more tha one ARFCN would open the capability to get immediately
> multiple-ARFC (without freq hopping) and stacking-up multiple USRP2 to
> catch the whole GSM spectrum.
>
> Does it sounds more simpler something like that?
>
> Fabio
>
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