No, I want to say that their contents is not deterministic.
For example, it may send only SI6 with randomized padding after ciphering mode 
command. (I have seen a network where I managed to crack only 3 keys in several 
hours and it looked like to exhibit this behavior)

On 23. 04. 19 8:28, Max Parker wrote:
> So you want to say, that can be a situation when SIT5, SIT5ter or SIT6 comes 
> not every 102 frame? Doesn't it break the GSM protocol? 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Max
> 
> On Apr 22, 2019, at 3:09 PM, Jan Hrach <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>>> i found than in some African countries the find_kc app not working. Kraken 
>>> gives me a lot of potential keys, but the find_kc application does not 
>>> bring a match ...
>>
>> Maybe they are using randomization so you are not actually guessing the 
>> keystream. Is there any way to check it against a communication capture with 
>> known key?
>>
>>> Maybe i need to roll back more or less than 100 clocks in find_kc?
>>
>> You should always roll exactly the same amount as is the position of your 
>> fragment in your burst.
>> This is a standard GSM-spec thing, I don't think it would be possible for 
>> the network to alter this.
>>
>>
>>> On 22. 04. 19 11:39, Max Parker wrote:
>>> Hello all
>>> i have strange problem with find_kc app
>>> i found than in some African countries the find_kc app not working. Kraken 
>>> gives me a lot of potential keys, but the find_kc application does not 
>>> bring a match ...
>>> Maybe i need to roll back more or less than 100 clocks in find_kc?  
>>> Has anyone met this behavior?
>>> Thnaks
>>>
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>>> Best Regards,
>>> Max
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