On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Johnny Adams wrote:
> > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Frank Nordberg wrote:
> > > Richard Robinson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm intrigued. There are Winders with manuscripts in Wyresdale, just down
> > > > the way from Lancaster. Is this a copy of the one I typed up
> > > > (http://www.leeds.ac.uk/music/Info/RRTuneBk/Winder/Winder.abc)...
> > >
> > > That's the one. I didn't realize it came from you site, Richard. The way
> > > it was presented at the Geocities web site made it look like an original
> > > for that site.
> > >
> > > Anyways, seems there's no real problem after all then. Everything at the
> > > SoHo/9618/ site is present elsewhere on the web.
> > >
> > > > ...or a copy
> > > > of the Village Music Project's more complete version of the earliest
> > > > stuff,
> > >
> > > actually it's a less complete copy, just 144 tunes while you have 147.
> >
> >
> > The usual unfortunate combination. Grab a copy, don't check for updates,
> > and fail to attribute so that anybody who copies from that site can't
> > check for themselves. It's several years since the last 3 tunes were
> > added.
>
> I don't know what you mean by this - VMP hasn't grabbed anybody's
> copy - we work from originals only and I have copies of the
> originals here by my computer. Are we talking about John Winder
> (1789) or Edward and John Winder (1835-41)?
No indeed, you haven't grabbed anything, and I'm sorry if what I said
looked like I meant that. We were talking about a Geocities site that used
to have a file "winder.abc" which has now gone missing; Frank was
concerned that it might have been unique, that tunes might have
disappeared from the 'net : but it looks as though it was a copy (old) of
my file from the www.leeds.ac.uk site.
[ re your other post - my copy of the VMP John Winder (1789) file has 53
tunes, have you added loads more ? ;) ]
This update issue is beginning to annoy me. People occasionally ask if
they can put up copies of my stuff, and from time to time I become aware
that a lot more people are doing it without asking, and I've always taken
the attitude that once I've put something up in public I can't control
what happens, so why not just be cheerful about it ? But I wonder what
it's all about, really. People seem to think they're doing "the Web" a
service by making more copies available. Mirrors are good, yes, but a
5-year-old file with no clue as to where it came from, it seems to me, is
likely to head people off from any updated version. Which isn't too
helpful.
I suppose what's bugging me is that, prompted by discussion here, the most
recent update of my "Tunebook" (last autumn) included hrefs to the source
site in every tune, so I'm noticing how many copies there are of previous
versions, which don't include that. The cost of not getting it right first
time :-/
--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem
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