Phil Taylor writes:
| John Chambers wrote:
| >Actually, there's a consistent problem that no software has a  chance
| >of fixing: Different printers (even of the same model) have different
| >borders along the edges that they don't print.  There's no  way  that
| >I've  ever  seen  to  ask  a printer for the size of its non-printing
| >borders.
|
| It can certainly be done.  Otherwise how would word-processors be
| able to let you set the size of the margins?  On the Mac, when the
| user does a Page Setup command to set the paper size, the printer
| returns a record which is stuffed with information, including two
| rectangles which give the size of the paper and the size of the
| printable area.

OK, consider my ABC tune finder.  It does conversions from abc to  ps
and  pdf  on behalf of HTTP requests coming in from distant machines.
How would it ask the client's machine for the printable area  of  its
printer?   And  note  that this is assuming that the user is going to
print it on that printer. In reality, it will probably just be handed
to a local ps or pdf handler, or written to a file.  It could then be
printed some time later on any printer available to  the  user.   How
would  my  CGI script go about discovering that printer and asking it
for the shape of the printable area?

The only feasible approach is to ask the user.  But  most  users  not
only  wouldn't  know;  they  wouldn't even understand the question or
have any idea how to answer it.  (Nonetheless, I am working on making
it possible for a knowledgeable user to supply such information.)

| Unfortunately, some Epson printers seem to always return the page
| size for the largest paper they can take, rather than the size of
| paper which is actually loaded.  This can complicate things a bit,
| but the printable area seems always to be correct.

Yeah; that's another problem.  Not all printers will return the data.
Others  return  it  in a proprietary format that they won't tell you.
Still others return it in a published format, but they lie.  It's all
utterly hopeless.
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