I like Phil's suggestion, but we still need to answer the original question to figure 
out what it is we're backing up from.

 L=1/4 and [FG/]G  

My vote is that the chord lasts 1 eighth note.  Just because it seems like you'd want 
to do:
 L=1/4 and [FG/]G/
and beam the two G's together.  Otherwise you're missing an eigth note and the program 
has to guess that you want a rest there.


In a message dated 1/19/2003 5:36:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> 
> 
> John Chambers wrote:
> 
> >Phil Taylor writes:
> >|
> >| >2. L=1/4 and [FG/]G , what beat is the second 'G' on? 2 or and-of-one?
> >|
> >| Undefined, I'm afraid.
> >|
> >| MusicXML has an interesting construct to deal with this kind of situation.
> >| The <backup> and <forward> tags have the effect of moving the time point,
> >| so you can use <backup> to go back to the start of a measure in order to
> >| add an extra layer of notes.  This means that you can deal with temporary
> >| voices which appear and disappear in the course of a piece.
> >|
> >| Maybe we need something similar in abc?
> >
> >I sorta  recall  reading  about  just  such  a  feature  in
> >abc2mtex,  with  a  comment  that it probably wouldn't work
> >with other abc programs.  I've never read about anyone else
> >ever implementing it.
> >
> >Now what was that syntax? ...
> 
> I don't remember that.  Anybody know?
> 
> Otherwise let's think about how we might implement it.  Perhaps it's time
> to make use of one of the few remaining precious ascii symbols like $ or &.
> We only need one symbol for <backup> since <forward> is an invisible rest,
> and x will do fine.  Then again, none of the currently-unused symbols
> have the necessary negative connotations.  < would be the obvious choice
> if it were not already in use.  How about using the invisible rest with
> a negative number following:
> 
> x-4 means backup four default note lengths
> x-  means backup one default note length
> x-/ means backup half a def note
> and so on.
> 
> So Aaron's original example ( L=1/4 and [FG/]G ) could be written as
> 
> F x- G/ x/ A (the A when after the F ends)
> 
> or
> 
> F x- G/ A3 (the A starts when the G ends)
> 
> Phil Taylor
> 
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