Phil Taylor wrote:
> 
> Paulo Eleut�rio Tib�rcio wrote:
> 
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> >    I'm in need of some to encode
> >Gregorian Chant, for instance, and I think I'll have to add more variety
> >to
> >the already existent for that).
> 
> Have you looked at <http://www.barfly.dial.pipex.com/bfgregorian.html)?
> This scheme is followed by BarFly and by Melody/Harmony assistant, and
> involves minimal changes to allow abc to represent Gregorian Chant.
> 
> (Basically, it's just an addition to the K: field to specify which of
> the eight possible clefs is in use, and some reinterpretation of the
> standard abc symbols when a Gregorian clef is specified.)
> 

Thanks for the link, it's a good starting point.  I tried to check your
references on the page ( http://www.netaxs.com/~rmk/Chant/index.html and
http://home.mcn.net/~relbooks/gf_salve.gif ), but they seem to be gone.

I'm a member of the Coral Gregoriano de Belo Horizonte  (Minas Gerais,
Brazil - http://www.gregoriano.org.br ), maintained by the Father Nereu
de Castro Teixeira Cultural Society where I've been a student of
Gregorian Chant for the past seven years.

We follow the school of Abbaye Saint-Pierre de Solesmes,
whose aim is to restore the performance of the pieces as close as
possible to the original medieval interpretation based on the study of
the paleographic manuscripts.  Their findings have been gradually
incorporated to the typesetting of the Church's official GC books in
square notation;  some of these also carry the paleography for the
pieces (e.g., the _Graduale Triplex_).

As our repertoire is in the official chant books (available),
typesetting
them for the choir is not the issue.  But we offer courses in Gregorian
Chant, and production of handouts mixes typesetting the words and
calculating white space to add the musical samples to a paper copy,
so the document can't be computer-stored as a whole.

The requirements I am trying to meet are the following:

1.  A typesetting style compatible with those of the past 50 years,
    making possible as close a representation as possible of one or
    other printed version so the samples in the handout matches what
    the student will find in the official chant book available;

2.  A typesetting for the paleographical notation, at least for the
    neumatic signs of Saint-Gall;

3.  Automated audio rendering of the notation in MIDI (including as
    much of the semiological tokens as feasible) as a learning aid;

4.  And, of course, typesetting in modern notation according to the
    the conventions usually followed by the Church books (useful for
    studying GC choir conduction and for typesetting pieces for
    occasions when a large group of non-gregorian singers are expected
    to join in).

To me, abc matches Gregorian Chant in simplicity, so it is a better
candidate for creating sources than an entirely new system I might
design;  also it is an open format, so GC coded in abc would be
accessible to a large community.  Then, the problem I face is to
represent GC in abc so as to meet my needs and at the same time
keeping the code fairly readable by existing pieces of software.

Some of the solutions you designed for BarFly are good;  others are
likely to comply with one style of singing while excluding others
(e.g., repeated pitches on the same syllable, which you tie up for
one long note as in some schools, should be, according to Solesmes,
sang as as many repeated notes, i.e., as written).

I like the way you indicate liquescence;  that was one problem I
was still trying to solve.  Also I like the S and Q in the beginning
of the new melodic fragment (I was using !shortphrase! and the
like, but these are required to be attached to the last note of
the previous fragment, which I find distracting).

Now, to represent all that information in abc would require a lot of
extensions and the notation might get a little cluttered.  I'd like
to make the source readable and easily editable (that's the reason
I've chosen abc, in the first place;  SGML/XML might be usable, but
would make code more complex to edit by hand).  Maybe I'll have to
think of splitting the information among several layers (as abc does
for lyrics).

More ideas are welcome.

(BTW, when you talk about the horizontal episemata (K in BarFly),
you seem to imply that they always apply to the whole block of notes
that follow.  Well, they don't always;  in fact, almost any note
in a group may be episematic, i.e., the episema is a feature of
the note to which it is attached, applying to the next only in
specific cases.  Also you shouldn't miss a horizontal episema
in the modern notation, as it generally indicates that the note is
to be slightly hold or to receive some expression or emphasis;  not
so for the vertical episema, because while the former is represented
in the manuscripts, the latter was introduced in the modern square
notation as an aid to rhythm and is under revision.)

Thanks again.

Paulo E. Tib�rcio

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