In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Webber
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>From: "Bernard Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> >Hmm.  I'm afraid this is very far from conventional in any
>general
>> >sense.  I play music full of  these things at least twice a week,
>> >and have rarely seen one restricted to one bar, and IIRC the
>right
>> >hand end either has a vertical or not, depending on the whim of
>the
>> >publisher - usually indicating a strongly marked end-of-section
>if
>> >one is present, and that the phrase more or less continues if
>not.
>> >:-(
>>
>> I quote Gardner Read, ("Music Notation") who says [to quote in
>full]:
>
>[Lots of nice examples of theory/typography books.]
>
>Thanks for these Bernard.  I agree about avoiding "bad notation"
>seen in publications but in this case I don't think it is bad - and
>in fact ubiquitous practice seems to disagree with the books.  :-)

The Kurt Stone book claims to have been written after research among
musical publishers as to what is current custom, as opposed to the "law-
giving" of the other authors.

>
>Eric Taylor ("The AB Guide to Music Theory") has "The first- and
>second-time directions can embrace more than one bar..." but doesn't
>actually show a picture of a 2nd time bar doing so.

Of course the first-time notation MUST extend to the next :| and so may
well me >1 bar. And I would agree that the 2nd time bar MAY be extended.
But why make life difficult (for us): the rules I gave are clearly
acceptable and easy to implement.
>
>>>So for us the algorithm of "where does the 2nd time bar
>end?" is simple: at the end of the bar and has a downstroke only if
>the
>next barline is not a simple one |.<<<
>
>One can certainly adopt that for abc purposes though it will look
>very odd in cases like (dons composing hat)
>
>L:1/4
>.....|1  c e g e | c d e f  :|2 c e g f  | e4  |]
>
>:-)

I don't see why, personally. But if you want to search for the ending
within n bars, go ahead :-)



Bernard Hill
Braeburn Software
Author of Music Publisher system
Music Software written by musicians for musicians
http://www.braeburn.co.uk
Selkirk, Scotland

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