On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 11:31:54PM +0000, John Chambers wrote:
> Richard Robinson writes:
> |
> | I've been forced to use this for %%Copyright, which is a thing that's
> | important to keep track of, which ordinary ABC can't handle.
> 
> This is also done routinely  by  a  lot  of  people  by  putting  the
> copyright information in either a C or N header.  Thus, I have a copy
> of My Cape Breton Home with the line:
> 
> C: Jerry Holland \251 1988
> 
> Jerry has put all his tunes online in abc, and he generally does  the
> copyright this way.
> 
> There is a minor problem with the lack of a  standard  place  to  put
> this  information,  and  it  would  be nice to standardize that.  But
> copyright law doesn't have such a requirement, just that you put  the
> notice   in   a  prominent  place.   Publications  do  put  copyright
> information all over the place.   And  there  is  even  a  reasonable
> argument  against  standardizing  it in one place.  As the above line
> illustrates, when the composer holds the copyright, it's obvious that
> the  best place is in the C header line.  If the copyright is held by
> someone else, then it's just as obvious that the C  line  should  not
> contain the copyright notice.

Yes, that was why I felt I needed a particular place to put just that
info, and know that that was what it was. I had cases where the maker
was the copyright holder, cases where the 2 were different, and a lot of
Swedish/Norwegian "efter"s, which also seemed to want to be in C: -
and I didn't really want "efter Pers Hans Olsson" displayed in the same
way as "Copyright XYZ Music Inc."

> The %%Copyright approach isn't currently as good,  because  most  abc
> software won't do things like include it in PS or MIDI output. But if
> we make it the standard, lots of programs will probably be changed to
> recognize it and use it.

That's true, that other programs won't deal with it. But, my knowing
what it is is enables me to get it displayed appropriately on my gifs,
which I think are seen by more people than are using the ABC (and on
paper locally). Though it would be preferrable if people using my ABC
through their software saw it too ... I do think it would be useful
if we could agree on a field for this. Call it my attempt at a de-facto :)



> We have had occasional suggestions that abc allow  spelling  out  the
> names of header lines, using Title:  and Composer:  for example. This
> would mean some small tweaks to abc parsers, but it obvious  wouldn't
> be a really big deal. Of course, considering how many abc users can't
> even be bothered with typing spaces,  I'd  predict  that  the  1-char
> headers  would  remain  the  overwhelming  majority.  You see this in
> library and bibliography info, where Title:  and Author:  are  proper
> labels,  but  T:   and A:  are probably a lot more common because the
> software nearly always allows it.  And it saves disk space.

And typing time. And (getting really pernickety) the alignment helps
legibility.

But I think we're going to have to deal with this at some point.
We _are_ running out of characters, there are ambiguities which could be
clarified by using a whole word, it would make the whole thing rather
more accessible to less-techy readers.
There's alway pre-processing, of course. "#define %%Title: T:" ...

-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

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