No word back from IANA yet, but I've pinged them again. I'm hoping that we could get an OIDs here:

http://www.iana.org/assignments/smi-numbers

under this arc:

Prefix: iso.org.dod.internet.security.mechanisms (1.3.6.1.5.5)

Decimal   Name          Description                           References
-------   ----          ------------------------------------  ----------
      0   Reserved                                            [IANA]
      1   SPKM          Simple Public Key Mechanism           [Adams]
      2   SNEGO         Simple GSS-API Negotiation            [Pinkas]
      3   PIM           PEM-Based IDUP Mechanism              [Adams]
      4   MIM           MSP-Based IDUP Mechanism              [Adams]
      5   p7im          PKCS #7-Based IDUP Mechanism          [Adams]
      6   meim          MOSS-Enabling IDUP Mechanism          [Adams]
      7   pkix          Public Key Infrastructure             [Housley]
      8   ipsec         IPsec Key Management                  [Thayer]
      9   lipkey        LIPKEY Mechanism Using SPKM           [RFC2847]
     10   iakerb        IAKERB GSS-API Mechanism              [Trostle]
     11   ltans         Long-Term Archive and Notary Services [Housley]
     12   msec          Multicast Security                    [RFC4534]
     13   gsscma        GSS_C_MA Mechanism Attributes         [RFC5587]
     14   scramsha1     SCRAM-SHA-1                           [RFC5802]

we'd try to get the next # (assuming 15) and then we can manage the arc under that. Sound like a plan?

spt

On 1/26/11 8:46 AM, Sam Hartman wrote:
"Sean" == Sean Turner<turn...@ieca.com>  writes:

     Sean>  Sam,

     Sean>  The question is whether you think we should get a new OID
     Sean>  every time the syntax changes.  I agree that assigning an OID
     Sean>  out of an "experimental" and then changing it to an
     Sean>  "operational" arc if the syntax didn't change is kind of a
     Sean>  waste of time.  I have this vague notion of the syntax
     Sean>  changing a lot.  If the WG doesn't think that's going to
     Sean>  happen then we probably don't have to go the experimental then
     Sean>  switch to operational route.

I haven't answered this directly because  syntax is a poorly defined
term here.
These OIDs do not describe objects encoded using ASN.1.

If we were using ASN.1 I'd say that whenever we changed the syntax since
the last used version, we should change the OID. By last used version, I
mean any version that someone claimed to have implemented. If we
published draft 2 today and found a minor error and fixed it in draft 3
tomorrow I would not typically require an OID change even if the syntax
changed.

Here, I think we should change the OID if things change in a manner that
breaks compatibility.  We have some extension points in the spec so many
of the things we might want to do would not involve an OID change.  One
thing we've discussed (support for null GSS target names) probably
should involve an OID change because it changes the semantics (and
probably syntax) of the first message from client to server.

I expect we'll have one OID change from the OID in Luke's privaty arc
we're having today (for the target name change above).  Around that time
I expect there will be people using the code and past that point I think
we'd need to be fairly strict about OID changes. I don't see a need for
any spec changes that would require an OID change beyond that point,
which realistically means it will probably happen once or twice. (There
are always changes you don't anticipate.)

--Sam

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