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> From: Alan DeKok <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [radext] RFC 4282 and RADIUS implementations (was abfab and SAML)
> Date: November 3, 2011 8:02:31 AM GMT+01:00
> To: "Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)" <[email protected]>
> Cc: Bernard Aboba <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" 
> <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> 
> Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking) wrote:
>> Alan: I see that you posted a new rev of the NAI doc.  Are you amendable
>> to presenting on your doc and framing in the context of the conversation
>> below? 
> 
>  Yes.
> 
>  Alan DeKok.
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> From: "Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [radext] RFC 4282 and RADIUS implementations (was abfab and SAML)
> Date: November 3, 2011 12:32:38 AM GMT+01:00
> To: Bernard Aboba <[email protected]>, Alan DeKok 
> <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" 
> <[email protected]>
> 
> We should discuss this at upcoming meeting. 
>  
> Alan: I see that you posted a new rev of the NAI doc.  Are you amendable to 
> presenting on your doc and framing in the context of the conversation below? 
>  
> -MS
>  

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> From: Bernard Aboba <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [radext] RFC 4282 and RADIUS implementations (was abfab and SAML)
> Date: November 2, 2011 4:22:25 PM GMT+01:00
> To: Alan DeKok <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> 
> > > This document includes a requirement for encoding of the NAI as per RFC
> > > 4282.
> > > 
> > > Today, RADIUS implementations do not convert U-labels within the
> > > domain-portion of the NAI to A-labels, because the User-Name attribute
> > > is 8-bit clean and designed to handle UTF-8, as described within RFC
> > > 2865, Section 5.1.
> > 
> > I agree. I pointed the document authors to my 4282bis, and they
> > pointed out it wasn't a published spec, or even a WG item.
> >
> > > As a result, RFC 4282 doesn't really apply to RADIUS, and mentioning
> > > that with respect to User-Name encoding is potentially confusing (and
> > > could create an interoperability problem that doesn't exist today).
> > 
> > This is the most important point for me.
> > 
> > Is it time to move ahead with 4282bis? There have been few comments
> > on the existing doc. All it does is codify current practice.
> >
> >
> [BA] Given that the spec would create an incompatible variant of RADIUS,
> I'd say that the situation is pretty serious, and that a document clarifying
> the encoding of the NAI within RADIUS is critical. 
> 
> Beyond that though, it strikes me that we may also need a "RADIUS Change
> Process" document.  
> 
> 
> 
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> From: Alan DeKok <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [radext] RFC 4282 and RADIUS implementations (was abfab and      
> SAML)
> Date: November 2, 2011 8:43:19 AM GMT+01:00
> To: Bernard Aboba <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> 
> Bernard Aboba wrote:
>> This document includes a requirement for encoding of the NAI as per RFC
>> 4282.
>> 
>> Today, RADIUS implementations do not convert U-labels within the
>> domain-portion of the NAI to A-labels, because the User-Name attribute
>> is 8-bit clean and designed to handle UTF-8, as described within RFC
>> 2865, Section 5.1.
> 
>  I agree.  I pointed the document authors to my 4282bis, and they
> pointed out it wasn't a published spec, or even a WG item.
> 
>> As a result, RFC 4282 doesn't really apply to RADIUS, and mentioning
>> that with respect to User-Name encoding is potentially confusing (and
>> could create an interoperability problem that doesn't exist today).
> 
>  This is the most important point for me.
> 
>  Is it time to move ahead with 4282bis?  There have been few comments
> on the existing doc.  All it does is codify current practice.
> 
>  Alan DeKok.
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> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [radext] FW: [abfab] I-D Action: draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-02.txt
> Date: November 1, 2011 2:28:33 PM GMT+01:00
> To: <[email protected]>
> 
> 
> FYI.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 1:44 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: [abfab] I-D Action: draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-02.txt
> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories. This draft is a work item of the Application Bridging for
> Federated Access Beyond web Working Group of the IETF.
> 
>       Title           : A RADIUS Attribute, Binding and Profiles for
> SAML
>       Author(s)       : Josh Howlett
>                          Sam Hartman
>       Filename        : draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-02.txt
>       Pages           : 14
>       Date            : 2011-10-31
> 
>   This document specifies a RADIUS attribute, binding and two profiles
>   for the Security Assertion Mark-up Language (SAML).  The attribute
>   provides RADIUS encapsulation of SAML protocol messages, while the
>   binding describes the transport of this attribute, and the SAML
>   protocol messages within, using RADIUS.  The profiles describe the
>   application of this binding for Abfab authentication and assertion
>   query/request.  The SAML RADIUS attribute and binding are defined
>   generically to permit application in other scenarios, such as network
>   access.
> 
> 
> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
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> 
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
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> This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at:
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