We're discussing section 8 of draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml.

>   this issue would be declaring SAML-Message and/or the SAML-Assertion
>   attributes as authentication attributes. We think this would make sense
>   as as they might affect how the subsequent authentication process will
>   be performed.


I don't support that approach mostly because it assumes there will be
subsiquent authentication.  If there is such I'd expect eap-message or
similar to be present in the radius access-request

My recommendation is that we indicate in section 8 that this draft only
covers the case where the request in in the context of an existing
session and includes state.
In future, the profile can be expanded.  I'd probably leave state as a
SHOULD with a note about 2865 and indicate that if you're using this
profile without state you need a spec describing how to do that and that
spec needs to tell you what authentication attributes to include.

--Sam

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