*note* to tomohiro kubota: this is sent to you with respect to the
xterm-utf8 and input method discussion on linux-utf8. It might be
interesting to have an interschange of ideas with the abiword developers
who do UTF8 on the GUI "front". *cheers: oldo*
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Hello!
We are glad to find the GPL'ed office suites pushing forward M$ ... :-)
And to figure out the intrinsic *.DOC format KDE/GNOME even collaborate ...
Great!
BTW: What about the collaboration on the *.SDW or OpenOffice-XML format?
It seems that many companies and institutions currently go for StarOffice
due to its rich functionality. It is a damned resource hog, but some
people seem to have fast machines ...
Anyway: I forwarded the good news about *_Melbourne University_* to some
"multiplicators" I know and to the geeks and gobos who populate our
"Computerraum" ... (i think in English it's "computer lab" or so.)
We are now arranging for Abiword Installation on our Redhat7 to check out
the multilingual functionality of Abi. (It is the department of
"Computerlinguistik" of "Saarland University" at Saarbr�cken in Germany
that I am talking about.)
Because we also try to keep an eye on the "linux-utf8" efforts to
integrate and smooth unicode support on Lin-Unixes, there occured the
question of "input methods" and, e.g., the XIM (X input methods) support
of abiword. There is currently a thread on <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> where
these topic of "input methods" is discussed with focus on xterm-utf8 to
enable console apps to receive a wider set of character input.
I don't know much about standards on this area but GNU Emacs seems to have
a great variety of input methods in MULE, whereas the "yudit" unicode
editor employs its own "kmap" methods (version 2.x has now been out for a while
and does even bidi editing).
It's an important thing to have a pluggable mechanism for input methods,
but that is presumably crystal clear for the Abi developers?! ;-)
So we would be pleased at Saarbruecken if somenone could give some
feedback on "L18n" or general "M18n" features/plans of the Abiword
developer community. :-)
cheers and good luck
Oliver Doepner
Comutational Linguistics
Saarbr�cken University, Saarland, Germany
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Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 23:56:49 +0200 (CEST)
From: oldo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Univox Radio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, CoLinuX Freaks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Meike Ismar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bruno Haible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Frank Burkard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, pingos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Holger Cr�ni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Erich Pawlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Sysgroup Mathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Uwe Seibel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gerd Reinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Hans-Ullrich Krieger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: GPL'ed Offices to replace MS-Office (fwd-digest)
Hello mates,
there is a quick moving development going on in the office area of GPL'ed
code. For the GPL "copyleft" philosophy see http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/).
Abiword (Standard GNOME wird processor) and OpenOffice (was "StarOffice")
in the GNOME area, KOffice in KDE and ...
Abiword at http://www.abisource.de is developing really quick and
can already be used as a decent "document viewer" for *.rtf, *.doc,
*.html (XHTML!), some rich text and *.utf8 plain text ...
Wenn ihr es leid seid, f�r jede RTF-Datei oder MS-WORD-Dokument, das euch
irgendein Win-Doofer schickt/schenkt/r�berschiebt, ein StarOffice
hochzufahren und plain-txt-m��ige viewer wie catdoc oder mswordview nicht
reichen, dann ist Abiword das Programm der Wahl. Es gibt ordentliche RPMs,
die auch f�r RH6.x und Suse 6.4 gut funktionieren. Au�erdem hat
AbiWord einen LaTeX-Exporter (der noch im pre-alpha Stadium ist), usw.
Abisource.com macht Cross-Plattform: Abiword ist verf�gbar unter Windows
(tausendmal besser als "wordpad" oder ein Wordviewer von MS), MacOS, Palm,
BeOS sowie native auf LIN-ux, HP-ux, SUN-os, SOLAR-is, A-ix,
[Free|Open|Net|.*]-BSD oder was sonst noch GNOMEish in der UN*X-Welt
rumf�hrt. Alles GPL-lizensiert.
Und es offensichtlich "kicks ass" oder so:
;-)
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Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 18:05:03 +0200
From: Hubert Figuiere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Abiword Dev List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Abiword used as Word replacement
Read this on: they replace Windows with GNU/Linux and GNOME. They
claim to use Abiword.
http://it.mycareer.com.au/news/2001/06/05/FFX9ZT7UENC.html
It is in Australia.
Hub
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Trinity College, at Melbourne University, threw open the
doors to open source in December last year when it
discarded its Windows NT network. Educators and technical
staff wanted a better, cheaper way to teach the 750
overseas students in its Foundation Studies tertiary
bridging course, which introduces Western concepts and
computing skills.
[..]
After being assured the HP clients would run Linux, "we
couldn't get through to anyone who could give us boxes
without Windows," says Wraith.
[..]
The transition removed the need for Microsoft's Office.
Word, Excel and Powerpoint were replaced with open source
equivalents AbiWord, GNUmeric, and the Photoshop-like GNU
Image ManiPulator (GIMP). Presentation packages are not
taught but if they were, KPresenter, part of the free
KOffice suite, would be the likely candidate, says Wraith.
[..]
We're educating, not training," Bell says. "The argument we're talking
about here is: `You have to teach Microsoft Word'.
[..]
"We do teach them word processing and spreadsheets and GIMP," says Linux
guru and computing lecturer Mike Williams, "but we're also teaching the
students the concepts behind them." By discovering the concepts,
students are less fearful of computers than they might be if they were
only narrowly trained to use a program, he says.
[..]
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