I'm glad to see that people are looking at other comparable applications for 
GUI precedents.  This is a very Good Thing, because widely-used applications 
help establish useful conventions for us to consider following.  

However, when we're looking for precedents, all GUI apps are *not* created 
equal.  GUI toolkits tend to be very flexible, so it's possible for 
well-intentioned GUI designers to come up with all kinds of bad ideas:

  http://www.iarchitect.com/mshame.htm

The mere fact that *somebody* did something a particular way doesn't make it 
a good precedent, especially if that product never got very many users (when 
compared to its competitors).  

In short, market share *does* matter here.  Mature products that have been 
out for a number of years with a massive or rapidly growing userbase are far 
more likely to offer useful precedents.   I'm not saying that any product is 
perfect, but people do vote with their feet.  ;-)

Thus, when I talk about desktop UIs, I mean Macintosh and Windows.  When I 
talk about desktop applications, I mean web browsers and word processors.  
Thus, my list of the most widely-used and well-understood desktop precedents 
to consider is ultra-short:

  - IE
  - Netscape
  - Word

Yes, there are plenty of other interesting products in those categories, and 
some may have UI innovations worth considering, but their relevance for our 
target users is much harder to assess without usability lab feedback.  [1]

I'm happy to hear about applications (such as NEdit or KOffice) which 
arguably might have as big a userbase as we do -- more data is a Good Thing 
-- but as design precedents, they pale in comparison to the three mega-apps 
mentioned above.  

Paul

[1]  I want to stop beating this particular dead horse.  There's no easy 
substitute for the kinds of high-quality, and often surprising, feedback you 
get from a *real* usability study.  Anyone who thinks there is should learn 
more about what usability labs are and how they work.  

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