--- Tomas Frydrych <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: > 
> Hi Leonard,
> 
> > >(5) Develop a new XP font manager (some, but not
> much platform
> > >code needed), no complexities here, all we need
> to is to be able to
> > >retrieve font names and associate them with their
> Pango descriptions
> > >(not unlike the Unix font manager), probably from
> a pregenerated text
> > >file.
> >  Why doesn't FT fit the bill here - or is there
> something that 
> > I am not understanding about what you mean by a
> "Font
> > Manager"?
> 
> We need some internal mechanism for filling the font
> combo box 
> with user readable names, and associating the font
> names in the 
> combo box with a the descriptive data with the
> PangoFont objects; 
> this should be straight forward. Pango itself takes
> care of the 'real' 
> font management, it has a manager based on the xft
> library that 
> maintains a database of fonts available through FT
> and also has a 
> mechanism for automatic font substitution when the
> requested font 
> is not available.

This is something AbiWord would need control over.
In general, it's a good thing but we don't want the
user to get something other than exactly what she
expects without us knowing ourselves right?
Also, does it do this on a character basis or a font
basis?  MSWord, MSWordPad, and MSIE seem to map in
characters from another font when single characters
are missing from the requested font.  This gets rid
of the square boxes/question marks for missing
characters but is not always what you want.

> It seems we would not need to directly interact with
> FreeType, the 
> Pango low-level api makes it possible to take a
> string and get back 
> a finished FT_Bitmap, which is better than I first
> thought, all we 
> would need is for each platform to implement a
> function for drawing 
> this bitmap on screen, everything else can be XP. PS
> output would 
> be a bit more complicated, but at the same time,
> this would be an 
> excellent oportunity to move it into the XP land.

Would it be possible to create a new Pango API
analagous to the one that returns the FT_Bitmap to
return PS.  Don't we already have code that does most
of this which could be migrated into Pango?

> > >(6) replace the current shaping engine with
> Pango.
> >  You tell us - that's your baby ;).
> I do not see this as a major problem, this is one
> thing that I am 
> prepared to do the necessary work on -- as long as
> we can deal 
> with the portability issues, we are in business. I
> have spent a better 
> part of the day examining the low level API of
> Pango, and it does 
> seems to provide all we need, and I think the
> changes would be 
> transparent to all our layout classes above
> fp_TextRun (I can hear 
> Martin sighing with relief :-)). 

Woohoo (:

> > >(7) get the existing Pango language modules other
> than Hebrew
> > >and Arabic to work with the FreeType back end. I
> have no idea how
> > >much work this would be, but without it we would
> have only support
> > >for Hebrew and Arabic, albeit much better than we
> have now.
> > 
> >  Not a clue here.  How many modules?  What's
> involved?
> 
> For each language Pango handles there is a module,
> at the 
> moment there are modules for Hebrew, Arabic, Hangul,
> Indic, Tamil 
> and Thai, plus a basic module that handles
> everything unhandled. 
> Unfortunately, but logically, each of these modules
> requires a 
> separate implementation of interface with each
> supported font 
> backend. At the moment, the only modules which have
> the ft2 
> implementation are Hebrew and Arabic. I have no idea
> how much 
> work it would be to add this to the other modules,
> but suspect it 
> would require familiarity with Pango, FreeType and
> the language in 
> question. (I only had a closer look at the Hebrew
> module, and that 
> looks good, Dov Grobgeld done some work on proper
> positioning of 
> vowels, accents, etc.).

Those are all things I want to be familiar with (:

Andrew Dunbar.

> Tomas 

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