Hello, QML Unity is back : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnityNextSpec
As Unity Next switch from QML1 to QML2, it now needs GLES2, so this should be running on the AC100 tegra 2 GPU with the nvidia proprietary driver. Regards Florent On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Roberto A. Foglietta <[email protected]> wrote: > Swapiness should definitely reduced. > > http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness > > Please take in consideration that 30/512 = 6% compared with 360/512 = 70% > and 390/512 = 76%. Under this point of view if the RAM is an issue (and it > is) then the effort in order to reduce the RAM usage would be better > addressed not using the lightest but less user-friendly desktop manager than > trying to remove services and/or components that probably are not useful for > Toshiba. Toshiba it would be able to recognize and manage all the > peripherals and does not supposed to have all services a common desktop has > on board. > > http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-linux-memory/index.html > > Any common browser is practically useless on AC100: > > http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/macbook-air-chrome-16-firefox-9-benchmark,3108-13.html > > http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-web-browser-lightweight.htm > > Midori is the smallest one for MEM footprint based on GTK2+ > > But in the end those want really have a geek usable system should take in > consideration to porting this on AC100 > > http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/ > > > > > 2012/9/3 Luis Flores <[email protected]> >> >> Here is a memory comparison from phoronix: >> >> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_vitals&num=1 >> >> On Ubuntu 10.04 LXDE uses 30MB less than XFCE. >> >> I don't know the current difference, but 30MB is not a trivial amount >> on the AC100. >> >> Is it feasible to include both? XFCE and LXDE on the install image? >> They are both small ... >> >> The worst thing using this laptop is RAM, once you start swapping the >> system stalls for minutes at a time, it's horrible. A normal user will >> assume the laptop is crashed, and that's a very bad thing. >> >> Do you feel the laptop is usable with XFCE? With 3 or 4 aplications >> open (Octave,AbiWord,Dia,RDP,Gnumeric...)? With 3 ou 4 browser tabs >> open? >> >> Try opening a few docs on Google Docs, or a few threads on Slashdot, >> it will stall ... >> >> XFCE is more user friendly than LXDE, but is it more usable on the AC100? >> >> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Florent Gallaire <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Ubuntu made its reputation in delivering a great user experience, with >> > a full featured and integrated Desktop by default. >> > I can install WindowMaker, some tiling WM or Openbox (i.e. LXDE) by >> > myself for my personnal needs, but for my sister's AC100, I need Xfce >> > ready from the start. >> > Xfce is the only one lightweight full featured and integrated Desktop >> > available, it's the only choice possible. >> > Please switch to it. >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Florent >> > >> > On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Luis Flores <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> Ubuntu should be easy to install. The UI must be pleasant to use, and >> >> perform reasonably well. >> >> >> >> The AC100 is too memory constrained, anything that use less RAM will >> >> be seen as a usability improvement from the user point of view. >> >> >> >> We can have a nicer desktop or 4 open tabs on Firefox or Chromium, I'd >> >> rather have more tabs ... Or be able to open another program. >> >> >> >> AC100 status: >> >> >> >> http://uk.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/jsp/SUPPORTSECTION/discontinuedProductPage.do?service=UK&tab=3&com.broadvision.session.new=Yes&PRODUCT_ID=1091301 >> >> >> >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toshiba-AC100-10U-Netbook-nVidia-Android/dp/B003VYB2KO >> >> >> >> Not produced, inventory still on sale. >> >> >> >> But I understand and agree with having the biggest audience possible. >> >> But, from my experience, the only way I can regularly use the AC100 is >> >> to free as much RAM as I can, so that I can run useful software. >> >> >> >> Also, pointing to the minimum seems like a technical only choice, it >> >> is easy to order and choose the lightest, pointing at an medium class >> >> desktop environment will lead us to much more debate, and opinions ... >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Roberto A. Foglietta >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Anyone enough skilled could be able to switch the desktop environment >> >>> after >> >>> installation. For some users just installing it would be a great pain >> >>> so I >> >>> think it will be better starting with a most user-friendly >> >>> environment, >> >>> instead adding pain to pain. >> >>> >> >>> Consider that AC100 is piratically useless with original OS which is >> >>> designed for tablets and not for netbooks with keyboard instead >> >>> touchscreen. >> >>> So many users need to replace their OS even if they would not be >> >>> comfortable >> >>> with this operation (most users do not change their OS even on PC for >> >>> which >> >>> is much more simpler). >> >>> >> >>> Obviously depend on the aim of the project if it is interesting to >> >>> have a >> >>> small/skilled user-base or a much broad user-base. The second of two >> >>> hypotheses seems to me more reasonable otherwise it did not started >> >>> with >> >>> Ubuntu but something more harder to manage but much more lighter also >> >>> in >> >>> term of operative system. >> >>> >> >>> Moreover keeping the way of user-friendly approach increase (the small >> >>> probability) that in the future Toshiba decide to deploy this OS >> >>> instead >> >>> android - AFAIK Toshiba did not discontinued the production of AC100 >> >>> or did >> >>> they? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> 2012/9/3 Luis Flores <[email protected]> >> >>>> >> >>>> Well, anyone installing Ubuntu on an AC100 should be able to switch >> >>>> desktop environment later, so, it's nice to start with the >> >>>> minimal/fastest desktop ... >> >>>> >> >>>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Dr. Azrael Tod >> >>>> <[email protected]> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>> > On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 12:48 PM, hiro <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> >> why not simply ship without a desktop? >> >>>> > >> >>>> > that wouldn't really appeal to newbies, wouldn't it? >> >>>> > >> >>>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>>> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ac100 >> >>>> > Post to : [email protected] >> >>>> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ac100 >> >>>> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ac100 >> >>>> Post to : [email protected] >> >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ac100 >> >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Dott. 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