Hi John,

AMSI/ICE-EM (http://www.ice-em.org.au/AGR/) have government funding to assist 
with the establishment of Access grid rooms in mathematics departments 
throughout Australia. I think the funding covers about 16 rooms, of which 3 (La 
Trobe, Wollongong and Uni. South Australia) have been up and running from the 
second half of last year. Another 5-6 rooms should be running by the second 
semester this year.

The plan is that departments will share an honours year subject or 2 over the 
grid each semester and students from any of the universities will be able to 
sit in on them. A list of current offerings can be seen here: 
http://www.ice-em.org.au/AGR/subjects_and_courses.html

La Trobe has put on a couple of subjects so far, and we've had a few students 
from Wollongong sit in on them. The feedback has been very positive (except for 
one local student who saw the technology as a distraction from the "real beauty 
of the mathematics"). Since the numbers involved have been low to this point, 
we have not bothered with the funding side of things although this may change 
in the future. La Trobe hosted a "workshop" in December last year where 
academic representatives from the various universities got together and 
discussed funding models, subject prerequisites, misconduct, complaint 
procedures etc. It seems no conclusion was drawn on the funding side of things, 
but some of the other policies that were decided can be view at 
http://www.ice-em.org.au/AGR/assets/Documentation/AGR_Teaching_Pol.pdf

I think the academics have seen teaching over the grid and a little extra 
marking as quite minor inconveniences when compared to the gains for our 
students. We have the same problem mentioned by your staff in that the 
enrolments at honours year are quite low, and we don't have the resources to 
teach a large variety of subjects at that level. With the roll out of these AG 
rooms, our students may eventually have 20+ subjects to choose from, instead of 
the 4-5 they currently get.

Another initiative (unrelated to the AG) put in place by ICE-EM/AMSI is a 
summer school (http://www.ice-em.org.au/students.html#summer). This is hosted 
at different locations around the country each year, and honours/postgraduate 
students can give up part of their holidays to do a subject compressed into the 
month before our actual teaching semester starts. From what I hear, this has 
been a huge success. The students attend all the lectures in 2 weeks and then 
get 2-4 weeks to work on assignments etc. While it is hard work for both the 
students and lecturers there are plenty of rewards. The staff get to teach to a 
much larger class than they traditionally would, and the students enjoy 
learning from new lecturers and meeting students from other universities. They 
also all get to lessen their workload during the normal semester.

I tend to think that a lot of this would not be possible without an 
organization external to the universities driving it all and obtaining 
government funding. Faculty staff simply don't have the time or energy required.

Given that the funding side of things is still being "wrestled" with here, we 
would also like to hear any recommendations/success stories.


Regards,
Darren.

Darren Condon
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
La Trobe University, Victoria 3086, Australia.
Phone: +613 9479 1459


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From: owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov [mailto:owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov] On Behalf Of 
john langkals
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2007 12:08 AM
To: 'ag-tech'
Subject: [AG-TECH] Distant Education Funding Models



I am looking for any input from the Access Grid community concerning distant 
education funding models.  **It's a little late, but I would like to suggest a 
broader topic as motivation for the Access Grid Retreat: AG Distant Education 
Funding Models.



The interest has been generated at other universities to have their students 
possibly 'take' some of our advanced courses, IF we can come up with a funding 
model that works.  We have the technology and expertise in house to do this, 
but don't know how to handle the funding mechanics.



Within various departments, faculty complains of not enough grad students to 
justify teaching their favorite seminars.  It's suggested that they investigate 
spreading the opportunity around by investigating whether we could 'share' 
students among a number of universities, with instruction shared among the 
faculty.



What do you do at your respective institutions?  Are there any success stories 
to share?



Thank you,



John



John Langkals

Systems Manager

Ohio Center for Technology and Science

Columbus, Ohio 43210

614.292.6957 Office

614.327.3732 Cell

614.292.7557 FAX

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