Well, that camera does specify the type of output that Ultragrid works with on 
that HD-SDI connection (SMPTE-292M output)... i suspect then the details get 
down to the hardware on the computer side and networking, etc. It has other 
outputs, but not IEE1394 (firewire) which is where most HD cameras do onboard 
mpeg2 encoding/lag that Brian spoke of. I'm... guessing? that HD-SDI is 
uncompressed.

My concerns in meetings get back to having an "environment" of human presence @ 
multiple sites that can interface naturally - which includes video sources from 
the front and back of the room (what I call "environmental feedback") - 
typically called the "presenter camera" in the back of an AG room. I can 
possibly see having an HD camera in the front and back of the room to do 
this... then maybe another for... i've always felt you can't have enough 
cameras!

-John Q.

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Computer Manager LBRN; 131 Life Sciences Bldg.
e-mail: jo...@lsu.edu<mailto:jo...@lsu.edu>; web: http://lbrn.lsu.edu
phone: 225-578-0062 / fax: 225-578-2597


On Mar 8, 2007, at 4:11 PM, Colin Perkins wrote:


   We've done some work with uncompressed HD conferencing which might be 
relevant: http://ultragrid.east.isi.edu/
   Colin

   On 8 Mar 2007, at 21:14, Brian Corrie wrote:

      Hi John,

      Interesting... Does anyone know anything about SDI HD capture cards. We 
are looking at HD as well (but no direct experience yet) and the trick seems to 
be to get video off of the camera avoiding the onboard encoding of the video, 
which often adds significant latency (which is not good for AG of course). Does 
anyone know if the SDI out of this camera either has onboard hardware encoding 
(so low latency) and/or whether the SDI out is uncompressed video (I don't know 
anything about SDI other than that it is a broadcast oriented standard). Since 
this is a video conferencing camera one would assume the SDI is raw video (it 
looks like it base on my reading). So once one gets it out of the camera how 
does one get it to the computer... There must be an HD SDI capture card 
available.

      We are looking at the Sony HDR-HC7 prosumer HD camcorder as a 
possibility. They aren't available yet, but any day now... They have HDMI out, 
which is uncompressed video. There is a HDMI capture card that can handle raw 
uncompressed HD video at 1080i available from Black Magic that looks 
promising... The camera is around $1500 and the card is $250.

      http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/

      We are going to be purchasing this pair as soon as the camera is 
available, so I will let everyone know how this works out. If it does work its 
a pretty inexpensive HD solution!

      Cheers,

      Brian


      John I Quebedeaux Jr wrote:

         Someone asked me about this camera for HD use on the AG: 
http://www.picturephone.com/products/sony_evi_hd1.htm
         Anyone have any experience with it? I'm wondering if it was used, how 
to best "capture" it into a system for use on the AG... interest in using HD is 
high here. I'm more concerned about logistical issues with high resolution 
images on displays that don't have that much "resolution" space - particularly 
if several sites are involved.
         -John Q.
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         John I. Quebedeaux, Jr.; Louisiana State University
         Computer Manager LBRN; 131 Life Sciences Bldg.
         e-mail: jo...@lsu.edu; web: http://lbrn.lsu.edu
         phone: 225-578-0062 / fax: 225-578-2597





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   Colin Perkins
   http://csperkins.org/




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