Hi Derek,

Many of the items you listed are infact integral to the insors machines - the 
only problem with the insors nodes is that sometimes it is difficult to 
interact with AG nodes - but having the other features you mention creates a 
really nice tool.

Julie


On 1/22/07, Derek Piper <dcpi...@indiana.edu<mailto:dcpi...@indiana.edu>> wrote:


           Yes, looks like Steve Smith was right on the money with that. So what
   happened with that project? I'd think that would have been a smarter way
   to go with AG3.. ah well.

           Derek

   Andrew Sharpe wrote:
   > Hi Derek, you might like a read of
   > http://people.vislab.usyd.edu.au/~ssmith/apac05/apac05-presentation.pdf
   >
   > Andrew
   >
   > Derek Piper wrote:
   >>
   >>     Hi all,
   >>
   >>     Something I was thinking about was the differences between AG and
   >> H.323 and I was wondering if a 'blend' of the two, in a way, would be
   >> an interesting direction to go in.
   >>     What I'm thinking about is this, and of course there are many
   >> questions and details to work out but I thought I'd bring it up to see
   >> what people might think:
   >>
   >> A 'Call server' that people log in to when the 'AG caller' client
   >> starts, analogous to the IM server, Jabber server or H.323 'gateway'
   >>     Allows IM communication with all those connected
   >>     'Buddy lists' to see who's on?
   >>     What about distribution of servers.. would you need an account on
   >> every server in the world? what about a registry of servers?
   >>
   >> IM 'calling' ..i.e. make a noise, flash something.. get user attention.
   >>     nicer than speakers on hanging around in a venue
   >>     people who don't know you're on or where you're on may stand a
   >> better chance of contacting you :>
   >>
   >> Initiate video call just allocates IP addresses in the same way as a
   >> venue and runs media tools against either multicast or unicast to a
   >> bridge if that preference is set.
   >>     Simple 2-way video conferencing. We've achieved 'AG Skype'
   >>
   >> Add another participant to a 'call' by invite or by messaging each
   >> participant.
   >>
   >> Could also move to 'conference room' which is the same as an AG venue
   >> is now.
   >>     Maybe launch full AG VenueClient at that venue?
   >>     Then you could do the same shared-app stuff as we have now.
   >>
   >>
   >>     I'm kicking this around as a possibility and a direction for a
   >> project either as something that the AGtk moves towards or is an
   >> add-on for it. One of the things I've noticed is that polycoms are
   >> often used as a back channel and an ad-hoc meeting method because you
   >> can *call* someone. It's a videophone. AG relies on someone turning up
   >> where you are, and that's sometimes very awkward and not what people
   >> want to do.
   >>     Basically to implement it seeing as we have a Jabber integration
   >> doesn't seem that hard on the surface. The client would start off to
   >> appearing something like GAIM, Psi or Skype and you place a video call
   >> to someone or start a conference in a venue.
   >>
   >>     I'm curious to hear some points of view about it.
   >>
   >>     Derek
   >>
   >
   >

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