hello

we connect fine with vic and rat directly with mac osx to a bridge in the uk. 
we can even send dv video over firewire to other users at that bridge.

but...

using the accessgrid launcher software (requiring the cumbersome us government 
certification! why?) we have managed to connect to the venue:

https://vv2.mcs.anl.gov:9000/Venues/default

it opens rat and we can listen but our audio doesnt show up in the talk level 
sliding scale

not one but 2! vic windows open:
1- called vic: Venue_Server_Lobby (with zero videos in it, not even our own!)
and...
2 - called "Video" (with our ZKM(Video) node showing up but the image is grey! 
whereas with our direct vic connection to the uk, our ZKM(Video) shows up and 
works fine on the same machine not using the accessgrid launcher app?)

if we disregard this accessgrid launcher software, requiring us government 
certification and bypassing its slowness and using the open source software vic 
and rat directly from our mac osx (linux-like) system, here is the big question:
How can we connect to those listed in the Venue Client window in the accessgrid 
launcher? How do we find or get found by Venues listed with the accessgrid, or 
is the accessrid strictly a us government approval system, not open to free 
accessgrid agents like ours at the moment?

it is not that we wish to bypass any groups, on the contrary, we wich to 
communicate with grid-quality video/audio, but we are currently stuck at the 
point where the accessgrid launcher opens 2 vic window, gives us no view of our 
own video, or any others on the grid, and where the rat window opens but does 
not measure our own sound input?

in the Venus Server Lobby, we are the only participant present. the left column 
lists many lobbies, but when i select one, the 2 current vic windows close 
automatically, as well as the rat window, and the open-mash (the open source 
name for vic) crashes my entire system, not always, but sometimes, irregularly!?
this does not happen with the simple non-accessgrid.launcher connection system 
i learned from a wonderful accessgrid client in the uk!

i hope someone can follow this and either tell us how to connect to others 
without using the accessgrid launcher, or how to solve the accessgrid launcher 
for multicast from our fast connection here at zkm.

happy gridding :) philip pocock

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