Hi,


So far as I know, it is up to the user to choose which bridge server they use, 
and the default (i.e first in the list) bridge server displayed does not vary 
amongst clients.  I am unsure if there are plans to make this change - I 
suppose randomizing the ordering in the list would do this.



Andrew :)

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From: Jinshung Liu [mailto:l...@tcrc.edu.tw]
Sent: 12 January 2005 01:08
To: Andrew Rowley
Cc: ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov
Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] Bridge server with 2 interface cards



Hi, Andrew



Thanks for your comment , you are right about the design of bridge server.  We 
quit testing bridge server with 2 interface cards not only the way that bridge 
server behaves, but the connection between venue server and bridge server on 2 
interface cards is awkard.



By the way, I would like to discuss another bridging design, and be glad to 
share your opinion.



We have done tests on one venue serving by a couple of bridge servers, and 
won't work as expected(we would like to see if the unicast connections could be 
load shared). We built a couple of bridge servers and configured them to serve 
a particular venue, so once you choose unicast service, a list of bridge server 
would be  shown for selection, though some users selected the different 
bridges, the users were directed to some particular  one.



I know that many venues could be served by just one bridge server,  do you 
think that AG team member have any intention to enchance load sharing features 
as I mentioned above?



Jinshung



    ----- Original Message -----

   From: Andrew Rowley<mailto:andrew.row...@manchester.ac.uk>

   To: 'Jinshung Liu'<mailto:js...@nchu.edu.tw>

   Cc: ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov<mailto:ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov>

   Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 6:15 PM

   Subject: RE: [AG-TECH] Bridge server with 2 interface cards



   Hi,



   Sorry, I misunderstood what was happening here.



   What could be happening is that the bridge server is listening to multicast 
on the network that does not have multicast enabled.  I am not sure how you 
would go about doing this, but you need the unicast part of the bridge server 
to listen on one network card and the multicast part to listen on the other 
network card.  So far as I know, the current bridge server (Quickbridge) only 
listens on one network card (which this is I am uncertain).  I expect that if 
you use the multicast card by default, this might work.  Otherwise, it will 
probably require a modification of the source code of quickbridge to allow the 
choosing of a different network card for the multicast and unicast sockets.



   Andrew :)

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   From: Jinshung Liu [mailto:js...@nchu.edu.tw]
   Sent: 23 December 2004 01:07
   To: Andrew Rowley
   Cc: ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov
   Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] Bridge server with 2 interface cards



   Andrew,



   Thanks very much for your help, but I have another question, a reason that I 
set up 2 cards.



   We have 2 big networks, one is multicast enabled and the other is not, they 
are not interconnected. But some users could access both networks, some users 
can only access the network that is not multicast enabled.  So these 2 
interface cards on Bridge server were designed to help  connectting  those 2 
domain users.



   Could you see any resolution ?



   Jinshung

      ----- Original Message -----

      From: Andrew Rowley<mailto:andrew.row...@manchester.ac.uk>

      To: 'Jinshung Liu'<mailto:l...@tcrc.edu.tw> ; 
ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov<mailto:ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov>

      Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:27 PM

      Subject: RE: [AG-TECH] Bridge server with 2 interface cards



      Hi,



      Often Multicast sockets are set up to "not loopback".  This means that 
any traffic sent from the local computer is not received at the local computer 
again.  This is typically true of bridges.



      I do not think that you need to set up two separate cards to listen in to 
multicast and unicast at the same time.  You can only set up one unicast socket 
listening on a particular port, but you can usually set up any number of 
multicast sockets listening on the same port as the unicast socket.



      Hope this helps,



      Andrew G D Rowley :)

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      From: owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov [mailto:owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov] On 
Behalf Of Jinshung Liu
      Sent: 22 December 2004 03:18
      To: ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov
      Subject: [AG-TECH] Bridge server with 2 interface cards



      Hi



      We were trying to build a better AG connection topology, so we intalled 2 
network interface cards, where one sits in multicast network domain and the 
other in unicast network domain.



      But it didn't seem to work, the AG clients from multicast domain can't 
join with the AG clients from unicast domain ( the clients using bridge server).



      Could you give any suggestion ?



      Jinshung Liu







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