You don't need to share passwords if the proxy is holding the password. You *do* need to have some authorization on the proxy, or you've made the web pasword useless :-)
--Ivan > -----Original Message----- > From: ivo schindler [mailto:ag-techli...@toastbrot.ch] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:23 AM > To: Ivan R. Judson > Cc: ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov > Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] shared browser with private website possible? > > don't you need to hand out passords as well? of course one > could generate sessionpasswords, but it is still to > complicated. Compared to all the proposed solutions it is > much less difficult to use microsoft netmeeting to share > secured websites. i think this is a pity and i don't want to > propose netmeeting. it lacks a lot of usefull stuff that AG provides. > > maybe an extended pictureviewer, where one could grab the > actual screen and refresh it every second would already > almost solve this problem... > it wont be very elegant. but more comfortable than the other > solutions (hardware, vnc, proxy) > > is there anything planned for sharing for example a secured > website or a local window for an upcoming release of AG or by > some independent developer? > > thanx again and greetings.ivo > > > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 08:11:10AM -0500, Ivan R. Judson wrote: > > > > The other alternative is to use the shared browser with a shared > > proxy; this changes the application structure slightly, but > makes it > > much more like the trivial shared applications that have > been done for > > decades, simply multiplexing input and output. > > > > We did a shared adventure back in '93 that way that was a smash hit > > :-) > > > > --Ivan > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov > > > [mailto:owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov] On Behalf Of ivo schindler > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 2:57 AM > > > To: Hank Magnuski > > > Cc: ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov > > > Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] shared browser with private > website possible? > > > > > > Hi Hank > > > > > > Thank you for your answer, it was the only one! > > > > > > you are right in the points of security and so on. but > hardware is > > > out of scope of my thesis and it would use 2 computer for > every node > > > plus your hardware. as i would use AG for a big amount of > > > Workingspaces i think your proposed solution is not realistic. > > > > > > do you or anybody else know any other solution? i've > tested vnc but > > > this is neither integrated in ag nor does it scale at all. > > > > > > thank you and greetings. > > > ivo schindler > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 07:30:13AM -0700, Hank Magnuski wrote: > > > > On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, ivo schindler wrote: > > > > > > > > > hi all > > > > > > > > > > i want to share a private website (secured by htpasswd or > > > even one > > > > > in a private subnet). how can i manage that, without > giving the > > > > > login- informations to the others? Is that possbile at all? > > > > > > > > Yes. We offer an alternative solution to solve this problem > > > which is > > > > more secure and easier to use than the various software > solutions > > > > currently available. > > > > > > > > Take a look at this product: > > > > > > > > http://www.ncast.com/telepresenterG2.htm > > > > > > > > It captures the analog RGB signals from the output of a PC (in > > > > your case, the secure PC logged into the private subnet showing > > > > the internal page) and then packetizes and multicasts > this image > > > > as a high-resolution MPEG-4 multicast (1024x768 at 8 > frames/sec). > > > > > > > > Thus, ANYTHING shown on the desktop of the PC will be > captured and > > > > broadcast to the other nodes (web pages, Powerpoints, Excel, > > > > custom software, etc.). > > > > > > > > The security of the internal network is assured because > the link > > > > between the internal and external networks is an RGB cable > > > which acts > > > > as a natural and complete firewall. > > > > > > > > Any of the other solutions require the presentation PC to be on > > > > the external network (the Access Grid nodes) and the internal > > > > network (private > > > > subnet) simultaneously, allowing for potential security faults. > > > > > > > > If you have any questions about this, or if you would > like to see > > > > a demo of this for your government project, please let me know. > > > > > > > > Hank > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > _ __ _ __ > ( `^` )) ivo schindler mr.shin...@toastbrot.ch ( `^` )) > | || seestrasse 297 http://www.toastbrot.ch | || > | || CH-8038 zurich tel ++41 (0)1 481 37 91 | || > '-----'` '-----'` > pgp/gpg key: 1024D/202E5DC6 or get it from: > http://pgp.toastbrot.ch/ key fingerprint : BD6A B471 54DB > 30C3 25E2 07D6 93E6 6A6E 202E 5DC6 > >