Hi, Pete. I don't know why are relations or name/description not
enough since caption and summary are exposed via them too. I bet AT
knows better :)

Variant should fit perfect.

Thank you.
Alex.


On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Pete Brunet <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Alex, Why are relations sufficient?  A relation is a connection to
> another accessible but you said you don't want to fabricate another
> accessible.
>
> We probably should have had caption and summary return a variant so either
> an accessible or a BSTR could be returned.  Would that have solved the
> problem?
>
> Pete
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> On 8/9/2011 8:47 AM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
>
> Hi, Benjamin.
>
> I believe Jamie meant proposed summaryText and captionText when asked
> about accName/accDescription.
>
> More general question can be asked, i.e. why we need to have interface
> to expose caption and summary and it can be worded as "why are
> labelled_by/for and described_by/for relations insufficient".
>
> Thank you.
> Alex.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 4:42 AM, James Teh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Why are accName/accDescription insufficient?
>
> The content model of HTML <caption> is "flow" (with no descendant
> table elements):
>
> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/tabular-data.html#the-caption-element
>
> That means it a wide variety of structured markup, including headings,
> changes of language marked up with @lang, and links and form controls.
> A practical use of this complex content model might be to include
> controls for modifying the display of the table or linking to sources
> for the table's data.
>
> accName is a string, so any complex content is flattened into text:
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/accessibility.iaccessible.accname.aspx
>
> By contrast, the caption property returns an IAccessible or
> IAccessible2 object that could have children represents the structure
> of the caption.
>
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