At 12:06 9-9-2011, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
I think IBM have a lot of power in this relationship. If Oracle are
being slow about passing IBMs contribution to Apache then i think
IBM might be able to make that happen faster.
I have no evidence that anyone is deliberately being slow. It may
simply be a matter of resources that can be used for it. (But I admit
I was beginning to lose my patience.)
I heard that Oracle and Apache are in court fighting each other at
the moment or fairly recently about things that are nothing to do
with OOo. Oracle seemed to be just playing with OOo without any
really clear objectives other than just trying to make money from it
somehow. They seemed to treat it as though it was a mill-stone
around their neck because of it's OpenSource part.
Making money is a very clear objective, if you ask me ;-)
Not making enough money was why Sun got acquired by Oracle in the
first place. (Sun also asked IBM if they wanted to buy them, but IBM said no.)
Apache have a strong passion for projects that are at least partly
OpenSource. IBM seems to need OOo to be developed with strength and
determination to be strongly viable against MS Office rather than
just being allowed to crumble.
Straying off topic once more ;-) :
From IBM's point of view, which office suite should have been that
competitor? OpenOffice.org, IBM Lotus Symphony or both? IBM has an
"IBM Lotus Symphony Savings Calculator" at
<http://www-03.ibm.com/software/lotus/symphony/ROICalc.nsf/mainForm>.
Not buying MS Office licenses for its 400,000 employees (or a bit
less if you count only those who need an office suite) probably saves
IBM enough money to finance OpenOffice.org / IBM Lotus Symphony development.
So it seems that IBM were able to push Oracle into handing OOo to
Apache who are not struggling as much as Oracle possibly
hoped. Perhaps delaying the transfer of IBM's gift is the most they
can do to make things difficult for Apache? Maybe IBM has some leverage there?
Delaying the IAccessible2 code (if that is what is happening; we
don't really know that; and Dennis Hamilton sent us a URL to the
Mercurial CWS'es where that code may be available) does not benefit
Oracle or create difficulties for Apache, as far as I can tell. The
only victims would be people with disabilities on Windows who want to
use a free and/or open source office suite, and this group is not
involved in the lawsuit between Oracle and Apache.
Best regards,
Christophe
Regards from
Tom :)
--- On Fri, 9/9/11, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] IAccessible2 / LibreOffice
/ OpenOffice.org
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, 9 September, 2011, 3:46
I haven't looked into this issue as much as others, but what's left here
for IBM to do? It sounds like they've already donated the code. BTW, who
in IBM did you contact? I used to know some of the guys working on
accessibility inside IBM.
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