Hello,
Do You have Skype? and if so would you be willing to give me some help
with this over skype?
I understand most of it apart from the bit about establishing a path in
the environment under the advanced settings of system settings, It's
getting a bit late and I think I am gibbering a bit. if you have skype
add me under Kevin Cussick I am in Scotland and I live in Dundee you
should find me thanks in advance.
On 28/10/2012 22:19, V Stuart Foote wrote:
Kevin,
You are correct that the average user should not have to deal with the minutia
of configuration details needed to make programs functional. But this is
developmental code that requires testing--so entails a level of mastery of
system and application configuration that goes beyond the skills of the average
user.
Clearly you have that or you would not even be attempting this.
As you know, the Java Access Bridge configurations have been especially
troublesome. Jamal Mazrui prepared the JWin installer package for Java Access
Bridge v2.0.2 using Inno installation scripting. It works well, especially for
a new installation. But with the inclusion of the Java Access Bridge v2.0.3
with JRE 1.7 builds from update 6 forward, the JWin scripted installation no
longer correctly functions. JWin has to be uninstalled, and the JRE 1.6
installations should be removed, and the environment variables--JAVA_HOME, PATH
and possibly CLASSPATH--edited to remove any Java references, and set
everything normal.
With the uninstall complete, the registry keys
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\JavaSoft and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\JreMetrics
should be deleted. On 64-bit systems those keys are
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\JavaSoft and JreMetrics.
Then following reboot, and with no JRE on the system, download and install as Administrator
only the offline JRE 1.7u9 for Windows x86 Offline from
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7u9-downloads-1859586.html
<http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7u9-downloads-1859586.html> ,
there is a radio button to Accept License Agreement to be toggled from another to Decline
License Agreement before the download link "Windows x86 Offline -
jre7u9-windows-i586.exe" becomes active.
Now reestablish the JAVA_HOME variable, and insert ";%JAVA_HOME%\bin" into the
PATH variable.
And if you'd run LibreOffice 3.5.7 or LOdev 3.6 or Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 you
should find and delete the javasettings_Windows_x86.xml configuration files and
delete them--they'll be rebuild with defaults against the PATH and JAVA_HOME
variable just established.
Or, the alternative is the delete the whole per user configuration folders in Win7 or Vista at
C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice or LOdev or OpenOffice.org respectively and
let it rebuild, but you will need to navigate the Tools -> Options -> Java and Tools ->
Options -> Accessibility panels to reenable Java and Assistive Technologies. A little tough
to do because these configuration frames do not enable accessibility for their radio button and
check boxes beyond what Microsoft MSAA or UI provides. If you can get someone to look over your
shoulder- for just a moment-you'll have a much better go at it.
Stuart
________________________________
From: Kevin Cussick [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thu 9/27/2012 4:15 PM
To: V Stuart Foote
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Java Accessibility restored to LOdev
3.6 development builds, on hold for LibO 3.6.4
Hi,
OK I downloaded the latest dev version I will get the version number and
installed making sure the jab switch was enabled under the ease of
access center under the use the computer without a display, the box use
the access bridge is checked. to cut the story short lo still dose not
work! disappointing. I will give you the latest version now stand
buy.libreoffice-3-6~2012-10-25_19.15.46_LibO-Dev_3.6.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.msi
I don't really understand about the environment I see under the
properties of the computer there is an advanced system settings I see 2
entry 1 is 1 I created my self the path reads like this copied from the
computer CLASSPATH; Value: C:\program files\java\jre7\\bin the second
one reads like this maybe this what is wrong and I will get it stand
buy, Java; Value: C:\Program Files\Java\jre7 I am a bit new to this and
I really don't think it should be expected that the average computer
user should have to muck about with this to get it working but I would
never the less appreciate some help with these two paths and maybe this
is why it doesn't work with thanks as always.
On 26/10/2012 22:45, V Stuart Foote wrote:
The developers have resolved the LibO source code issue for Assistive
Technologies for Windows builds using Java Accessibility API and the Java
Access Bridge mappings.
Unfortunately, not quite in time for the LibO 3.6.3 release that is now
building from the rc2 code base for a publish target Oct 29 - Nov 4th.
The fix WILL be in place for the LibO 3.6.4 builds due for publishing the
week of Dec 3 - 9.
In the interim, LibO 3.5.7 Accessibility for Windows users is intact.
Or, for the intrepid willing to work with the -LOdev-3-6 developmental
code, daily builds of the -3-6 Windows branch are available at this link:
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/Win-x86_9-Voreppe/libreoffice-3-6/
It is limited to language support for English, French and Spanish and lacks
a few of the extensions but is otherwise pretty stable.
But if you are really adventuresome , the Developers are always looking for
folks willing to test and report on the current builds of the master
developmental code. The daily builds systems for Windows (each a TinderBox)
are a little erratic, for example waiting on a sucessful build of the
current master code to test accessibility in LOdev 3.7, but the Devs get
that sorted out pretty quickly. And they do appreciate getting earlier
feedback.
Here is the link to the daily TinderBox builds of master
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/
<http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/> where forWindows build of
LOdev 3.7 you'll want TinderBox 6 Win-x86@6 (MSVC)
<http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/Win-x86@6/> or TinderBox 7
Win-x86@7-MinGW (MinGW)
<http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/Win-x86@7-MinGW/> .
The build time is the folder name, you'll want to download the latest and if
a site is really old, it means there were build problems with that
server--for example the two TinderBoxes 6 & 7 are both very stale due to an
error in the build system that is being worked on.
All agree that catching the problem with lack Java Accessibility support
should not have made it past the first release of the LibO 3.6 branch!
Having more users comfortable with working with the developmental builds
will help a lot when the call comes for testing.
Please do help.
Stuart
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