Hi, thanks for this post, this is very useful. I am not a programer
but I can do the same as you and test things. I have been wanting open
office and Lo to just work out of the box for years now it is more or
less happening I am excited good post and I am sure someone from the dev
team will read and maybe be able to try and fix with a patch.
On 27/06/2014 17:07, David Goldfield wrote:
I have some additional findings to report regarding screen reader accessibility
of Calc 4.3 and screen readers.
As I indicated in an early message, I receive little or no feedback when
navigating through spreadsheets using the latest Calc RC along with NVDA
2014.2, although accessibility is not broken in OpenOffice 4.1 and I assumed
that both LibreOffice and OpenOffice were using the same code for Iaccessible2
support.
For kicks, I wanted to see how Calc would interact with the latest build of
JAWS 15.
When I tried navigating through a Calc spreadsheet using JAWS, the behavior was
different and, on the whole, more positive.
When I first opened Calc with JAWS running, JAWS treated the spreadsheet as
though it was a Web page or HTML document and I had to turn off the virtual
cursor.
Once I did this, audible feedback while using arrow keys to navigate the
spreadsheet also yielded no results.
However, when I pressed the alt key to open the menu bar followed by a second
press of the alt key to close it, JAWS read the spreadsheet data and cell
information perfectly, as it would with programs such as Excel.
I was intrigued and closed Calc.
After reopening Calc, JAWS did not go into its Web page browse mode but still
did not produce feedback while navigating through the spreadsheet.
Once again, I pressed the alt key twice, to move focus to and then away from
Calc's menu bar.
As I expected, audible navigation worked perfectly, allowing me to hear cell
coordinates and any data contained within the cell.
Even more curious, I wanted to see if I could get NVDA and Calc to cooperate by
moving focus away from and then back to the spreadsheet.
I closed JAWS and started NVDA.
I opened Calc and pressed the alt key twice, once to access the menu bar and a
second time to move focus away from the menu bar back to the workbook.
Unfortunately, NVDA would still not read any data or cell coordinates in the
workbook. I don't know if this information is of any use to any of the
developers who may be reading this but I thought I should pass this along.
While I don't have JAWS on my home computer, I do have NVDA and would be happy
to run specific tests if I can be of any assistance.
I've also gone into the view menu to try and turn off unnecessary or at least
unneeded toolbars, as this can sometimes make a difference. As an example, I
vaguely remember that the formula bar might have been responsible for producing
too much audible feedback in one of the earlier versions of Calc. Again, if
there are specific settings any of you would like me to try please let me know.
As a user and trainer for other users of this technology, I am quite excited
at seeing more accessibility being implemented in these suites and I'd like to
do anything I can to assist in making this happen. I'm not a programmer but
I'm happy to test and report findings.
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