is this topic still going on? Cheers,
Kasha. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [AI] opinion > This's entirely true, as we can't generalize and say all blind people > are genuine or all women are conservative. > > Subramani > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rajesh > asudani > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 1:26 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AI] opinion > > *********************** > No virus was detected in the attachment no filename > > Your mail has been scanned by InterScan MSS. > *********************** > > > Sorry for writing in the thread after moderator's warning. > Well, girls are of all types right from having good and mature common > sense > as described by Subramani to touch-me-not type, and I have come across > them > all. At times I have also observed that more than their undue > conservatism, > It is non-occurrence of idea of holding hand to lead which is so > apparent to > us which contributes to their seemingly queer behavior. Proper and > mature > communication is the key in such situations. Sometimes conservatism is > also > responsible, and at times it is not unwarranted when in freak instances > blind persons have used escort's free willingness to lead by hand for > their > ulterior purposes. I also know of a freak and bizarre instance in a > country > other than India where a girl continued putting up with the practice of > placing his hand on her breast by a blind persons while being lead, as > she > thought it to be normal way of leading the blind. However, these are > rarities and must be condemned to the utmost and corrected promptly. > > However, what I am at a loss to follow is the insistence placed upon > holding > the arm instead of hand in classical mobility training as stated by some > members here. In my opinion and experience, hand serves the purpose > better > and is less obtrusive. If it is the question of keeping the hands free > while > leading, I am afraid it may not be an absolute necessity always and > besides > as far as I can think, an arm may not serve to guide a blind person > properly. One may hold wrist or near portion of arm instead. By the way, > I > have not attended any mobility classes ever, so sorry for any deviations > in > thought from classical standard practices. > > > Regards > > Rajesh. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:44 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY > > >> Even I have come across girls who have no qualms in holding hands. > Even >> strangers for that matter do freely offer their hands to a blind > person. >> >> Subramani >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Taraprakash >> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 12:35 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY >> >> *********************** >> No virus was detected in the attachment no filename >> >> Your mail has been scanned by InterScan MSS. >> *********************** >> >> >> Not quite correct. There is not a single Indian culture. the girls > have >> held >> my hand while guiding quite often; and even boys /men have given voice >> commands to guide or held my cane to guide. >> As Adina said, and even i suggested earlier, it is better that we hold >> the >> elbow or hand of the escort/guide rather than they doing so. >> This is one of the essentials of mobility training anywhere in the >> world. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:21 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY >> >> >> > hi there, >> > >> > I think, you are not clear as per the culture of India. Here, they >> don't >> > prefer guiding a blind by holding their hands though, particularly >> women. >> > Rather, most of the men are doing it with out hesitation, even if > the >> help >> > required person is a female. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Kasha. >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Adina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:08 PM >> > Subject: Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY >> > >> > >> >> The only thing we seem to forget is that, as vlind, we are the one >> who >> >> have >> >> to hold, and, moreover, not hand, but the arm itself, according to >> any >> >> classical mobility training and instructions. So, holding hand, at >> least, >> >> does not seem a real big issue, in India or anywhere else. >> >> Adina >> >> How about never? Is never good for you? >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Kasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> To: <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:17 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hi there, >> >>> >> >>> As I feel, the person who is in the same culture can only be able > to >> >> >>> give >> >>> a >> >>> healthy report on this issue. For an example, As per European >> Countries, >> >>> there is no hesitation for holding anybody's hands though. Rather > we >> >> >>> have >> >>> it >> >>> here. so, as per my knowledge, a person who lives in india or who >> knows >> >>> the >> >>> entire culture of our country can only give a good suggestion on >> this >> >>> matter. >> >>> >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> >> >>> Kasha. >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>> To: <[email protected]> >> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 2:05 PM >> >>> Subject: [AI] AI IDEA FOR DOCUMENTARY >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> HI ADINA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTRODUCTION. FORUM LIKE THIS IS A >> >>>> PLATFORM >> >>>> FOR ANYBODY, I UNDERSTAND, WHO HAS A HEALTHY, UNIVERSAL > CONSISTENT >> VIEW >> >>>> ADDING TO GENERATION & REGENERATION OF WHOLESOME IDEAS. NEITHER >> >>>> JUDGMENT >> >>>> & >> >>>> PERCEPTION SHOULD BE BOUND BY GEOGRAPHICAL TENDENCIES TO MAKE > THEM >> >>>> UNIVERSAL. I AM GREATLY DELIGHTED YOU HAVE BEEN GOOD ENOUGH TO >> JOIN >> >>>> THIS >> >>>> FORUM. 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