I think our focus should be on access with dignity rather than on 
concessions. Whether it be Airlines,  Railways, Telecom,  Buildings or it be 
Education, Banking  and other services.

If we are looking at long term  space for ourselves in the Social  and 
national setup,  then structures, systems, processes and thinking has to 
become inclusive and ensure  that all facilities and programmes  are 
accessible to all including us blind and visually impaired  people. I think 
we are  talking of Universal  designs and thought processes.

Hence I would entirely agree with Aruni,  we need to  demand for access 
rather than concession. This would also mean that opportunities created are 
more permanant. This would  be a meaningful step  towards creating a level 
playing field for all. Total access , to my way of thinking would lead to 
equal opportunities for all.

Best regards,

George
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aruni Arsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'RAJAT'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions?


I also feel that instead of demanding concessions from private players like
the telecom companies, we must stress on our right to equal access. Mobile
companies in the US are offering talks and the mobile speak as a part of the
package to the visually impaired persons.

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Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions?

Hi all,

Aren't we coming to somewhere near the concept of creamy layer among
ourselves. Those who require and those who do not. But, one thing for sure
we all want the disabled friendly/fully accessible  environment. Can this
happen with concessions?

Its a common practice that if you want additional features./facilities you
have to pay more for that. And if we are getting the facilities we demand
then we should come forward and pay for that.

We should also not forget that Income tax department, Govt. of India gives
tax deduction under section 80u of Rs. 75,000 or 50,000 as the case may be
and its also for those parents who have a disabled child. This is given to
compensate for the hardship we face in our day to day life. Is this not a
big relief?

Also if I am not wrong persons under VH and OH category but not HH, get
double the conveyance/transport allowance then other govt. employees get.

I believe we should demand for more and more facilities/equal participation
in education, transport, banking, building by laws,  .... And concessions
should be for those who really need them.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Regards

Rajat agarwal
New Delhi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:33 PM
Subject: [AI] Who should pay for concessions?


> Hi all,
>
> Having followed the thread on DGCA guidelines and the subsequent
discussion
> of concessions for the blind or escorts, I have been thinking about it for
a
> couple of days.
>
> I feel that in our country, the existence of public sector in businesses
> like transport and education has benifitted persons with blindness. If all
> the industry and utility services were run by private firms, I don't
imagine
> they would come forward with so many concessions and exemptions for us.
> Providing concessions is much simpler for public sector or government.
> However, this raises a big question of who should eventually pay for the
> concessions?
>
> As citizens of the country, we are entitled to lead a life which closely
> resembles a sighted or normal person who doesn't have a disability. This
> obviously entails extra expenditure because of various reasons. To offset
> this additional cost, concessions and exemptions are provided. I strongly
> feel that since the government collects taxes from individuals as well as
> businesses in the private sector, it should be the one paying for these
> concessions. If the Railways were privatised, the cost of providing
> concession to blind persons should be born by the government and not by
the
> private company which runs the railways. If a private company voluntarily
> comes forward with concessions, it is a very good gesture on their part.
But
> if concessions are imposed by law, the cost of these concessions should be
> reimbursed.
>
> For instance, when most of the other passengers of airlines were paying
full
> fair for their tickets, blind persons were only paying half. If we put the
> social argument of concession aside for a while, the airline company was
> loozing money by carrying blind passengers. The airline company in
question
> also pays the same tax irrespective of offering concessions. So, there is
no
> insentive at all for the airline company by carrying blind passengers. On
> the contrary, the company gets less money.
>
> I think it is the responsibility of the government to provide or pay for
the
> concessions as they should look after the welfare of its citizens. Private
> companies or public sector companies for that matter should never be
forced
> to bear the cost of concessions.
>
> What do you all think about this? I know this is never going to happen in
> India.
>
> Regards,
> Kiran.
>
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