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With Regards Neeraj Manglik Mobile number: 9312902018 Yahoo id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype id: neerajmanglik We cannot be more sensitive to pleasure without being more sensitive to pain. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on > Noone can appreciate that in PC or technology related group, issues > related > to rape or sexual harassment should be raised. > there is a yung friend of us Amit Bhat some days back he started a group > called today's focuss. I think that kind of group should be useful for > people like you. > please don't take undue advantage of the popularity of this forum for > raising such issues which are no less important but lack contextual > importance for this group. > I think I have made my point clear to all those who keep on raising such > issues with genuin concern. > With regards, > Vip > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 6:53 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on > > >> Hi Rakesh, >> >> I think that we have made our points very clear and there is no reason to >> bother about personalized messages being forwarded to the list again and >> again. So my suggestion is that we should not be carried away by certain >> messages being forwarded out of anger and I am sure that majority of the >> list members will share those concerns that we raised. >> >> Vetri. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "rakesh kumar gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 3:43 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >> >> >>> Hello DR. Vipin, >>> It seems that you want to run this group according your choice >>> "undemocratically" and you also want to declare that you are the only >>> person,who has all type of knowledge of all type of law, other members >>> have >>> no knowledge in this regard. >>> I am telling you with great regret that being a "lecturer" in Delhi >>> University, you haven't followed proper procedure of any complain and >>> any >>> disliking in this regard. My dear friend! if you had whenever or have >>> any >>> objection or any complain against raising any issue or procedure of >>> "immoderation" even though today also, you should directly send your >>> email >>> to Kiran {the moderator} for it. >>> Take care, >>> Rakesh Kumar Gupta, >>> PGT. / LECTURER of political science. >>> Mob: (91) 9868250258. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 12:03 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >>> >>> >>>> Patience for what my dear friends! >>>> Everyone knows what is the basic purpose of this group. I did not say >>>> that >>>> there should be voting on the issue! >>>> Realism should not be set aside for winning cheap populism. Let us not >>>> be >>>> eluded and deceived by those who under the garb of intellectualism and >>>> idealism of patience want to robe us of our precious time. >>>> Those who have knowledge about the common law are aware of the fact >>>> that >>>> once the group is moderated by some one if he allows certain issues >>>> to >>>> be >>>> raised which are not in the very objectives of this group and the group >>>> belongs to public domain. he could be held vicariously liable and >>>> could >>>> be >>>> sued in the courts for adequate compensation by any of the member for >>>> damages. >>>> So please bear with our friend Kiran! He is not going to pay some thing >>>> from >>>> his pocket. Law of tort is getting stronger and stronger these days and >>>> courts are very sensitive about the harms caused to some one even >>>> indirectly. >>>> The only remedy I could perceive under the circumstances that this >>>> group >>>> has >>>> expended like anything. Now we could declare this group as unmoderated >>>> and >>>> declare that 'any discussion which is catering to the wellbeing of VCs >>>> could be taken up directly or indirectly and every person who joins >>>> this >>>> group has to act according to his own good conscience. No member is in >>>> any >>>> way liable for the damages caused to him by reading the contents of >>>> this >>>> group. >>>> With lots of love and care to all! >>>> Vip >>>> >>>> Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra >>>> Deptt. of Political Science, Sri Aurobindo College, >>>> Delhi University >>>> >>>> Mobile: +919911113958 >>>> Email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Skype Id. vipin.malhotra >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "rakesh kumar gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 2:24 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello to all, >>>>> Yes Vetri! I agree with you. >>>>> Being a member of an intellectual group, we should have some patience >>>>> for >>>>> remarking on knowledge of anyone of us because "expression and open >>>>> discussion on any point" will create self confidence in a person. >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Rakesh. >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:11 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> I certainly understand the concerns of the member who finds lack of >>>>>> time >>>>>> in >>>>>> going through so many messages. However I would like to request the >>>>>> members >>>>>> to be careful while choosing certain expressions. For example the >>>>>> statement: >>>>>> "We should not put our nose in >>>>>> each and every discussion to which we have no idea or have little >>>>>> knowledge >>>>>> to contribute". In my view this is unwarranted since none of us are >>>>>> specialized in all the fields and at the same time it cannot and >>>>>> should >>>>>> not >>>>>> be a barrier in contributing to the group. Believe me or not, my work >>>>>> load >>>>>> here in the US is so much and still I find time to go through the >>>>>> message >>>>>> list and choose which ones to read and which one to ignore based on >>>>>> certain >>>>>> priorities and availability of my time. This is not to show to the >>>>>> group >>>>>> how >>>>>> much hard working I am, but to show that My inconveniences cannot and >>>>>> should >>>>>> not be used as tools to request other members to restrict their >>>>>> participation. Perhaps it would be great if we could receive comments >>>>>> from >>>>>> other members on this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Vetri. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 9:15 AM >>>>>> Subject: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Members, >>>>>>> I think this group is purpose specific. >>>>>>> However, WE have reduced it in to a forum for general discussion. >>>>>>> When we started the group there was a specific purpose behind it. >>>>>>> There >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> so many things which could be discussed about the problems of VCs. I >>>>>>> think >>>>>>> we should have group purpose specific. >>>>>>> So that we could be specialized in our approach in dealing with the >>>>>>> problems >>>>>>> related to us. Just casual remarks on issues are mere wastage of >>>>>>> time >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> so >>>>>>> many people here around. I received more than 300 messages on the >>>>>>> issue >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> definition regarding the word blind. >>>>>>> So many things which are important but do not fit in the scheme of >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> group could be taken up with free mind else where. Now initiating a >>>>>>> group >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> not a big thing. Any body could start a group. We should not put our >>>>>>> nose >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> each and every discussion to which we have no idea or have little >>>>>>> knowledge >>>>>>> to contribute to others. >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> VIP >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope the group would not take it otherwise. This is a specialized >>>>>>> world. >>>>>>> and we are part and parcel of the same integrated globe. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Naushad C A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 7:36 PM >>>>>>> Subject: [AI] question >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hello friends my name is Naushad and I am putting a >>>>>>>> question first >>>>>>>> time in access india. >>>>>>>> I am learning web programming from last one month. as >>>>>>>> a blind person >>>>>>>> actually I am struggling now with an issue about flash >>>>>>>> elements. 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