This group is not the only mouth peace for so many burning issues.
Please restrain yourself from further wasting many persons time.
With due regards,
Vip
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rajesh Parakh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Chetan Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on


> We must realize that we are first human being then professionals. if my
> mother, sister, wife or close friend would have gone through such a kind 
> of
> troma, would i object to this discussion? no, certainly not. access india
> has grown over these years and apart from technology discussions problems
> faced by VIPSrelated issues cannot be considered as off-topic. any way
> moderator's decision is final. let's see what kiran has to say about this.
> regards,
> rajesh parakh.
> regards,
> rajesh.,
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chetan Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on
>
>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I am not able to understand, why this group can not or should not discuss
>> the  sexual harassment of Blind women.  If an extended discussion on 
>> stray
>> dogs is relevant, if we can discuss reservations and concessions for VIs,
>> and if any other problem faced by Blind and Visually impaired is a part
>> and
>> parcel of this list, why can't we discuss sexual harassment of Blind
>> women?
>> If somebody has joined group to discuss issues pertaining to computers 
>> and
>> technology only then i think he/she misjudged the objectives of this
>> group.
>> There has been a persistent argument about the precious time. Please
>> understand   Everybody's time is equally important and precious.   Do you
>> think when smriti raise this issue, she was free and had no business at
>> all?
>> Is she passing her time by raising such issues? not at all.  more over,
>> first one or two lines, even subject can also suggest, what is written in
>> the message. If one does not like something, he or she can easily delete
>> the
>> message. it is nowhere in the group's policy that every member has to 
>> read
>> entire message and can not delete the message before reading it
>> completely.
>>
>> With regards,
>>
>>
>> Chetan Sharma
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Divyanshu Ganatra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on
>>
>>
>>> With all due respects, I believe this group is ment for discussing
>>> technology  and computer related issues, and not sexual harassment. Let
>>> us
>>> not forget what we have joined this group for, and  respect everyone's
>>> time
>>> and space on this forum.
>>> Having said that I leave it to the moderators  judgement.
>>> Regards,
>>> Divyanshu
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Subramani L
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 9:53 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on
>>>
>>> The subject here is how we can help VI girls to safeguard themselves, so
>>> the
>>> topic can't be irrelevant to the group. Also, we don't merely discuss
>>> technology, disability-related issues are therefore allowed for
>>> discussion.
>>>
>>> Subramani
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vetrivel
>>> Murugan Adhimoolam
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 2:41 AM
>>> To: Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra; [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I certainly understand the concerns of the member who finds lack of time
>>> in
>>> going through so many messages. However I would like to request the
>>> members
>>> to be careful while choosing certain expressions. For example the
>>> statement:
>>> "We should not put our nose in
>>> each and every discussion to which we have no idea or have little
>>> knowledge
>>> to contribute". In my view this is unwarranted since none of us are
>>> specialized in all the fields and at the same time it cannot and should
>>> not
>>> be a barrier in contributing to the group. Believe me or not, my work
>>> load
>>> here in the US is so much and still I find time to go through the 
>>> message
>>> list and choose which ones to read and which one to ignore based on
>>> certain
>>> priorities and availability of my time. This is not to show to the group
>>> how
>>> much hard working I am, but to show that My inconveniences cannot and
>>> should
>>> not be used as tools to request other members to restrict their
>>> participation. Perhaps it would be great if we could receive comments
>>> from
>>> other members on this.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Vetri.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 9:15 AM
>>> Subject: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on
>>>
>>>
>>>>    Dear Members,
>>>> I think this group is purpose specific.
>>>> However, WE have reduced it in to a forum for general discussion.
>>>> When we started the group  there was a specific purpose behind it.
>>> There
>>>> are
>>>> so many things which could be discussed about the problems of VCs. I
>>> think
>>>> we should have group purpose specific.
>>>> So that we could be specialized in our approach in dealing with the
>>>> problems
>>>> related to us. Just casual remarks on issues are mere wastage of time
>>> for
>>>> so
>>>> many people here around. I received more than 300 messages on the
>>> issue of
>>>> definition regarding the word blind.
>>>> So many things which are important but do not fit in the scheme of
>>> this
>>>> group could be taken up with free mind else where. Now initiating a
>>> group
>>>> is
>>>> not a big thing. Any body could start a group. We should not put our
>>> nose
>>>> in
>>>> each and every discussion to which we have no idea or have little
>>>> knowledge
>>>> to contribute to others.
>>>> With regards,
>>>> VIP
>>>>
>>>> I hope the group would not take it otherwise. This is a specialized
>>> world.
>>>> and we are part and parcel of the same integrated globe.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Naushad C A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 7:36 PM
>>>> Subject: [AI] question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>   hello friends my name is Naushad and I am putting a
>>>>> question first
>>>>> time in access india.
>>>>> I am learning web programming from last  one month. as
>>>>> a blind person
>>>>> actually I am struggling now with an issue about flash
>>>>> elements. How can
>>>>> I give disable friendly lables for flash element like
>>>>> buttons  and other
>>>>> movie clips. willyou please give me a reply?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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