Friends, We at times get into too much of arguments. There is no need to start another group but hhis group can discuss anything related to blindness. Otherwise there is a group called sayeverything. Please close this topic. Kiran Please. ----- Original Message ----- From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Chetan Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on
> where is the original topic? should we roll back to that topic, or it is > awated for a week or two. if anyone of us wish to start a group, i think, > he > or she can start and inform the list. thanks. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chetan Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 1:18 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on > > >> No sir, though, you have not proven your point at all, but i still think >> personal comments should be avoided, If i like, i can start to think that >> earth is flat and nobody will object it as long as i don't argue that >> earth >> is really flat and try to convince others to believe the same. But if i >> decide that i will keep on insisting my view point till all persons in >> the >> world agree that earth is flat, this will not work at all. >> Still, i am not able to understand why sexual harassment of Blind women >> is >> beyond the scope of this list. When we discuss each and every problem >> faced >> by VIs then why to exclude this one? Are we selfish enough to think that >> since we majority of male will not face this problem therefore it is off >> topic? Now, i realize why one of our friend, Rajesh Parakh went so far >> to >> put forward his thoughts. >> >> Regards, >> >> Chetan Sharma >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 7:54 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >> >> >>>I have proved my point beyond doubt. >>> These personal remarks in no way going to either hurt me nor I would >>> like >>> that I should reciprocate you in this public foray. >>> Who is a disgrace to whom could be proved by reasons and deeds! >>> >>> But here it is not in my agenda of discussion! >>> these personal remarks certainly could put you in trouble. >>> Laws regarding defamation are very strong. >>> In case I file a suit against you would have to deposit your passport >>> and >>> visit for attending the courts here. >>> But rest assured I am not going to do any of such thing. >>> With care and concern, >>> Vip >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 8:15 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >>> >>> >>>> That's indeed very true. But my another concern is that those poor >>>> students >>>> who have to listen to similar things in their class room and it can >>>> actually >>>> give a bad name to visually impaired community. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Taraprakash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 9:12 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >>>> >>>> >>>>> Dear sir. Talking about sex and sexual harassment are two different >>>>> things. >>>>> If the mail I am responding to was written by a college lecturer, I am >>>>> afraid, we can't stop this evil. You really need a refresher course >>>>> for >>>>> social and gender sensitization. >>>>> Good luck >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 10:51 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> At least my friends have realized that this topic is a deviation from >>>>>> the >>>>>> central focus of this group. >>>>>> I hope in future they would find a legitimate forum to raise such >>>>>> issues. >>>>>> As far as my friend who suggested that this issue could be raised on >>>>>> a >>>>>> group >>>>>> called dreams and romance. I don't think he made any invaluable >>>>>> suggestion. >>>>>> The issue of sexual harassment is a love crime it could always be >>>>>> dealt >>>>>> on >>>>>> such forums. If we could discuss issues arising out of virus and >>>>>> malwares >>>>>> on this list related to technology. Than why not such maladies be >>>>>> discussed >>>>>> in the pertinent list. It is a crime related to romance and emotions. >>>>>> So >>>>>> its >>>>>> remedy could always be sought on such list. Where people should >>>>>> understand >>>>>> the value of some one's emotions. >>>>>> Discussing sex is not a crime rather as Freud puts it is the motive >>>>>> force >>>>>> in >>>>>> guiding human behavior whether professional or otherwise. >>>>>> In this list we can discuss cyber crimes not crimes related to sex. >>>>>> The discussion should be conclusive only when every body is convinced >>>>>> about >>>>>> certain things which are related to his argument and presumptions. >>>>>> It is always good to argue only healthy arguments could lead us >>>>>> towards >>>>>> a >>>>>> rational approach in life! >>>>>> I would keep on writing till you people are convinced that law has >>>>>> its >>>>>> on >>>>>> importance. No one could let himself be convinced that he or she is >>>>>> above >>>>>> law! >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> Vip >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "P. Subramani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 12:40 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> What is wrong in discussing issues of sexual harassment particularly >>>>>>> those >>>>>>> raised Smirthi Singh? Although our group is for discussing >>>>>>> accessibility, >>>>>>> once a while there could be a deviation. This topic does really >>>>>>> concern >>>>>>> all >>>>>>> of us. In any group for that matter, there will be some deviation >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> topics >>>>>>> sometimes. So why don't accept and go on rather than otherwise. >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 1:08 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Members, I have personally written to the moderator on this >>>>>>>> issue. >>>>>>>> So >>>>>>>> could we wait until a decision is made on this? Please....... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:52 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I am putting the things in clear words again! Emphasis added it is >>>>>>>>>not >>>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>>> question of discussing matters pertaining to sexual harassment or >>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>> thing >>>>>>>>> else and their relevance for VCs. Question is since we have >>>>>>>>> disowned >>>>>>>>> several >>>>>>>>> members from this list already. Why to just pick and choose. It is >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> known >>>>>>>>> fact that this group is related to issues arising out of >>>>>>>>> accessibility >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> otherwise. its not that we are that we are not concerned about >>>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>>> social >>>>>>>>> issues. But again the question is, is it a proper forum to rays >>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>> issues? >>>>>>>>> Though our parliament is competant to make laws for whole of the >>>>>>>>> territory >>>>>>>>> of india. But it can not alter the basic structure of our >>>>>>>>> consitution. >>>>>>>>> Likewise, the basic structure of this group here is to discuss >>>>>>>>> issues >>>>>>>>> related to accessibility. >>>>>>>>> Then, a bonafide plaint is: Each member shal follow these guide >>>>>>>>> lines >>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>> is law abiding enough. >>>>>>>>> If you want to flout with existing laws than law would take its >>>>>>>>> own >>>>>>>>> course!! >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> Vip >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>>>>>>> changes, >>>>>>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>>>>>> changes, >>>>>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>>>>> changes, >>>>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>> >>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>>> >>>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>> >>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please visit the list home page at >>>> >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: >>> 9/22/2006 >>> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > > DISCLAIMER: > The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the addressee. 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