very shocking. it is highly deplorable. I do not know exactly, in what way I 
can help but I really wish to. do animals or birds have to learn how to 
bring about a new born? here in India, blind mothers are very efficient. so 
are there in Norway I suppose.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shadab Husain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 10:30 PM
Subject: [AI] Suffering of a blind mother!


> Date: 19 February 2007 08:18
> Charlotte Halvorsen
>
>  I, a blind law-student, have had the girl in question living with me
> for 5 months prior to birth. She has maturely and conscientiously
> worked very hard
> to take care of her pregnancy and to prepare for motherhood. This
> blind girl is a victim of discrimination, and almost as sadly: There
> are no qualified
> people to evaluate, train and assist blind parents to become good
> parents in Norway. My intention with this letter is to draw national
> and international
> attention to the three following issues:
> 1. Discrimination against the disabled is legal in Norway.
> 2. There is no system or skilled people in place anywhere in Norway to
> help blind people with becoming parents, or with assisting the social
> services with
> fitness evaluations in a responsible and competent manner when necessary.
> 3. As a function of the two above, a mother and child have senselessly
> and brutally been torn apart, as is described below.
> The blind born mother is 18 years old. She was raped and chose to have
> her baby against the tremendous pressure her father and local social
> services put
> on her to have an abortion. The baby is 10 weeks old. The social
> services believe that he has not developed sufficiently in his
> mother's care, even though
> they cannot produce any facts of neglect on the mother's part.
> After birth the mother and child were placed in a social services'
> institution with no accommodation or competency regarding the blind or
> even disabled
> people in general. The mother has received very little practical
> training, and only two hours of mobility by a teacher with relevant
> skills. Some modest
> accommodations were made over the evaluation period of two months
> after repeated requests, but most of the main problems remained
> unchanged.
> On Tuesday the 6th of February there was a meeting with the girl, the
> institution and the social services. The institution reported that
> they were very
> concerned. They did not think that the baby had developed as much as
> he should, and they believed this was the mother's fault. The baby was
> crying some
> more than babies in average, and his legs were too tense. The crying
> and tension had taken a negative direction during their stay in the
> institution. The
> girl's and my own observations are that the tension and crying seem to
> occur randomly, also when the baby is being held or when he is sound
> asleep. The
> crying reaches a desperate level very quickly, and nobody can calm him
> down easily. The mother is no better or worse at calming the baby than
> anybody else,
> but the institution claims that she should be better at it than
> everybody else. The institution has taken a long time to agree to a
> medical evaluation
> of the baby, which they simply believe is unnecessary. The evaluation
> has not yet happened. The girl was told that she needed to turn the
> situation around,
> and three days later they gave her a plan of "sensitive caring" which
> she was to follow. This plan included that in practice the baby could
> never be left
> alone at all, and his needs always should be met before he began
> crying. Therefore, the girl asked that I moved in to assist her on a
> temporary basis.
> The institution complained that the girl was unable to interact with
> her son, and that he was not making enough sounds. The girl and I
> strongly disputed
> that any of this was the case, and we were challenged to video-tape
> our view of reality. And so I taped the girl and the baby during the
> next week both
> at home and at the institution. The girl and baby were allowed to stay
> at home overnight once during the week, and all of the following
> weekend with just
> me present, as had been the case several times before.
> Monday, the 12th of February, the social services and the girl signed
> a plan regarding the evaluation, which among other things stated that
> the evaluation
> in the institution was going to last until the 1st of March. Other
> points were for instance that the girl was to receive guidance,
> training and help in
> a controlled and accommodated environment. Well, these goals were
> hardly met! Thursday, the 15th of February, there was another meeting.
> The institution
> started out with talking about how positively they thought the baby
> and the interaction between the mother and child had developed over
> the last week.
> They assumed that this had to be because the girl received much help
> from me with caring for the baby. We disputed this and explained that
> I only babysat
> short whiles when the mother was in the bathroom, eating and such, and
> that he slept in my arms for a few hours at night while his mother got
> some sleep,
> too. Other than that, I was there to give psychological support and to
> take care of other practical things such as cleaning and cooking.
> Next the institution surprisingly said that they had concluded their
> evaluation, and that they recommended that the soon 10 weeks old baby
> went into foster
> care soon. The following was their reasoning: The girl lacked a
> "mother's intuition" because she
> 1. Did not ask the staff enough questions about the baby, and
> therefore she had to be uninterested in him.
> 2. Was able to describe her background in detail and with passion,
> while she was unable to describe how she had imagined her baby to be
> before birth, or
> describe his detailed personality at 4 weeks! Based on this, they
> believed that the girl was unable to care for her baby in a mature
> way.
> 3. Was holding the baby in an "unloving way". If she did have a
> mother's intuition, she would have known automatically how to hold her
> baby correctly. The
> girl argued that she had never learned or seen how sighted people held
> their babies, and just because she held her baby in a strange looking
> way, this
> did not mean that she did not love him very much. She was simply
> holding her baby close to her in a safe way, and in a way which she
> felt that the baby
> was all right with.
> 4. Was stroking the baby mechanically. Again, the girl claimed that
> the way her caresses of her baby looked was a function of her
> blindness, and not of
> lack of love.
> Other than this, the institution and the social services did not care
> to point out any faults on the girl's part. They simply said that the
> baby's condition
> was their object of measurement, and his discomfort had to be his
> mother's fault. The girl asked if she at least could remain with her
> child in the institution
> until the 1st of March as planned. The social services seemed
> interested in at least using this time to find better solutions than
> taking custody, but
> I guess they were playing games. They wanted a meeting the next day,
> and at this meeting they presented an emergency order to immediately
> remove custody
> from the mother. They would not discuss their reasons, other than
> referring to yesterday's meeting.
> And so, about one hour later, a 10 weeks old, breastfeeding baby was
> taken from his mother's arms to be placed with complete strangers
> while he was crying
> desperately. No neglect was proven, the institution believed the
> mother and child had developed positively lately. Just a few days
> earlier the baby and
> his mother had spent an entire, unsupervised weekend at home without
> any problems. The girl still had half a month's stay in the
> institution to prove herself.
> The baby was better, not worse than before, and they took him away as
> a matter of urgency! The only problem is: They never really explained
> why this situation
> constituted an emergency. Also questionable, in the social services'
> urgency decision, they lied stating that the child had been medically
> evaluated, which
> he has not been!
> I believe that the social services generally has a crucial, necessary
> and commendable function in our society. I could never support any
> parent at their
> child's expense. But I who have seen this mother and child together
> more than anybody else, have to say that I am in a state of shock and
> disbelief of
> this abuse of power used against this poor baby who needs his mother's
> love and breastfeeding more than anything else at his tender age. And
> it truly breaks
> my heart that this mother whom I have only seen behave
> compassionately, lovingly and kindly towards her son, is being
> portrayed as described above. No
> matter how little she has slept or how hard her baby has been crying,
> she has never raised her voice to him or walked away from him. Instead
> she has held
> him, fed, carried and changed him while talking sweetly and
> compassionately to him. The girl who only seconds after birth begged
> to hold her son, who now
> tries so hard to extract breast-milk to give to the foster-parents and
> who bravely fought for her baby's survival under the most extreme
> circumstances
> and pressure, is not somebody who lacks a mother's intuition. And I
> will continue to challenge such ignorant and cruel accusations until
> somebody actually
> comes up with some real arguments to prove their case in this regard!
> I urge everybody who reads this to do what they can to support this
> family, and fight
> for their right to a fair evaluation where the mother does get the
> practical training and assistance she needs from relevantly skilled
> people! We do not
> ask that the mother gets her child back without any help or
> supervision, we simply ask that she and her son get a fair chance to
> stay together!
>
> Vennlig hilsen/With  best regards
>
> Charlotte Halvorsen
> Adresse: Olav M. Troviksvei 2 h1116
> 0864 OSLO
> NORWAY
> Tel: +47 22 95 27 08
> Mobil: +47 95 48 45 99/+47 93 06 50 78
> Universitetet: +47 22 85 01 61
> E-mail:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -----
> Original Message -----
> From:
> CH
> To:
> patricia robertson
> ;
> Gareth Davies
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:16 AM
> Subject: Urgent: Norwegian blind mother's child taken away without
> sound reasons!
>
> I, a blind law-student, have had the girl in question living with me
> for 5 months prior to birth. She has maturely and conscientiously
> worked very hard
> to take care of her pregnancy and to prepare for motherhood. This
> blind girl is a victim of discrimination, and almost as sadly: There
> are no qualified
> people to evaluate, train and assist blind parents to become good
> parents in Norway. My intention with this letter is to draw national
> and international
> attention to the three following issues:
>
> 1. Discrimination against the disabled is legal in Norway.
>
> 2. There is no system or skilled people in place anywhere in Norway to
> help blind people with becoming parents, or with assisting the social
> services with
> fitness evaluations in a responsible and competent manner when necessary.
>
> 3. As a function of the two above, a mother and child have senselessly
> and brutally been torn apart, as is described below.
>
> The blind born mother is 18 years old. She was raped and chose to have
> her baby against the tremendous pressure her father and local social
> services put
> on her to have an abortion. The baby is 10 weeks old. The social
> services believe that he has not developed sufficiently in his
> mother�s care, even though
> they cannot produce any facts of neglect on the mother�s part.
>
> After birth the mother and child were placed in a social services�
> institution with no accommodation or competency regarding the blind or
> even disabled
> people in general. The mother has received very little practical
> training, and only two hours of mobility by a teacher with relevant
> skills. Some modest
> accommodations were made over the evaluation period of two months
> after repeated requests, but most of the main problems remained
> unchanged.
>
> On Tuesday the 6th of February there was a meeting with the girl, the
> institution and the social services. The institution reported that
> they were very
> concerned. They did not think that the baby had developed as much as
> he should, and they believed this was the mother�s fault. The baby was
> crying some
> more than babies in average, and his legs were too tense. The crying
> and tension had taken a negative direction during their stay in the
> institution. The
> girl�s and my own observations are that the tension and crying seem to
> occur randomly, also when the baby is being held or when he is sound
> asleep. The
> crying reaches a desperate level very quickly, and nobody can calm him
> down easily. The mother is no better or worse at calming the baby than
> anybody else,
> but the institution claims that she should be better at it than
> everybody else. The institution has taken a long time to agree to a
> medical evaluation
> of the baby, which they simply believe is unnecessary. The evaluation
> has not yet happened. The girl was told that she needed to turn the
> situation around,
> and three days later they gave her a plan of �sensitive caring� which
> she was to follow. This plan included that in practice the baby could
> never be left
> alone at all, and his needs always should be met before he began
> crying. Therefore, the girl asked that I moved in to assist her on a
> temporary basis.
> The institution complained that the girl was unable to interact with
> her son, and that he was not making enough sounds. The girl and I
> strongly disputed
> that any of this was the case, and we were challenged to video-tape
> our view of reality. And so I taped the girl and the baby during the
> next week both
> at home and at the institution. The girl and baby were allowed to stay
> at home overnight once during the week, and all of the following
> weekend with just
> me present, as had been the case several times before.
>
> Monday, the 12th of February, the social services and the girl signed
> a plan regarding the evaluation, which among other things stated that
> the evaluation
> in the institution was going to last until the 1st of March. Other
> points were for instance that the girl was to receive guidance,
> training and help in
> a controlled and accommodated environment. Well, these goals were
> hardly met! Thursday, the 15th of February, there was another meeting.
> The institution
> started out with talking about how positively they thought the baby
> and the interaction between the mother and child had developed over
> the last week.
> They assumed that this had to be because the girl received much help
> from me with caring for the baby. We disputed this and explained that
> I only babysat
> short whiles when the mother was in the bathroom, eating and such, and
> that he slept in my arms for a few hours at night while his mother got
> some sleep,
> too. Other than that, I was there to give psychological support and to
> take care of other practical things such as cleaning and cooking.
>
> Next the institution surprisingly said that they had concluded their
> evaluation, and that they recommended that the soon 10 weeks old baby
> went into foster
> care soon. The following was their reasoning: The girl lacked a
> �mother�s intuition� because she
>
> 1. Did not ask the staff enough questions about the baby, and
> therefore she had to be uninterested in him.
>
> 2. Was able to describe her background in detail and with passion,
> while she was unable to describe how she had imagined her baby to be
> before birth, or
> describe his detailed personality at 4 weeks! Based on this, they
> believed that the girl was unable to care for her baby in a mature
> way.
>
> 3. Was holding the baby in an �unloving way�. If she did have a
> mother�s intuition, she would have known automatically how to hold her
> baby correctly. The
> girl argued that she had never learned or seen how sighted people held
> their babies, and just because she held her baby in a strange looking
> way, this
> did not mean that she did not love him very much. She was simply
> holding her baby close to her in a safe way, and in a way which she
> felt that the baby
> was all right with.
>
> 4. Was stroking the baby mechanically. Again, the girl claimed that
> the way her caresses of her baby looked was a function of her
> blindness, and not of
> lack of love.
>
> Other than this, the institution and the social services did not care
> to point out any faults on the girl�s part. They simply said that the
> baby�s condition
> was their object of measurement, and his discomfort had to be his
> mother�s fault. The girl asked if she at least could remain with her
> child in the institution
> until the 1st of March as planned. The social services seemed
> interested in at least using this time to find better solutions than
> taking custody, but
> I guess they were playing games. They wanted a meeting the next day,
> and at this meeting they presented an emergency order to immediately
> remove custody
> from the mother. They would not discuss their reasons, other than
> referring to yesterday�s meeting.
>
> And so, about one hour later, a 10 weeks old, breastfeeding baby was
> taken from his mother�s arms to be placed with complete strangers
> while he was crying
> desperately. No neglect was proven, the institution believed the
> mother and child had developed positively lately. Just a few days
> earlier the baby and
> his mother had spent an entire, unsupervised weekend at home without
> any problems. The girl still had half a month�s stay in the
> institution to prove herself.
> The baby was better, not worse than before, and they took him away as
> a matter of urgency! The only problem is: They never really explained
> why this situation
> constituted an emergency. Also questionable, in the social services�
> urgency decision, they lied stating that the child had been medically
> evaluated, which
> he has not been!
>
> I believe that the social services generally has a crucial, necessary
> and commendable function in our society. I could never support any
> parent at their
> child�s expense. But I who have seen this mother and child together
> more than anybody else, have to say that I am in a state of shock and
> disbelief of
> this abuse of power used against this poor baby who needs his mother�s
> love and breastfeeding more than anything else at his tender age. And
> it truly breaks
> my heart that this mother whom I have only seen behave
> compassionately, lovingly and kindly towards her son, is being
> portrayed as described above. No
> matter how little she has slept or how hard her baby has been crying,
> she has never raised her voice to him or walked away from him. Instead
> she has held
> him, fed, carried and changed him while talking sweetly and
> compassionately to him. The girl who only seconds after birth begged
> to hold her son, who now
> tries so hard to extract breast-milk to give to the foster-parents and
> who bravely fought for her baby�s survival under the most extreme
> circumstances
> and pressure, is not somebody who lacks a mother�s intuition. And I
> will continue to challenge such ignorant and cruel accusations until
> somebody actually
> comes up with some real arguments to prove their case in this regard!
> I urge everybody who reads this to do what they can to support this
> family, and fight
> for their right to a fair evaluation where the mother does get the
> practical training and assistance she needs from relevantly skilled
> people! We do not
> ask that the mother gets her child back without any help or
> supervision, we simply ask that she and her son get a fair chance to
> stay together!
> Vennlig hilsen/With  best regards
>
> Charlotte Halvorsen
> Adresse: Olav M. Troviksvei 2 h1116
> 0864 OSLO
> NORWAY
> Tel: +47 22 95 27 08
> Mobil: +47 95 48 45 99/+47 93 06 50 78
> Universitetet: +47 22 85 01 61
> E-mail:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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