hay friends, many of us are facing the same problem. I have also faced the same problem with ICICI bank. their is no uniform practice followed by the banks. Some of the banks such as PNB have taken clearcut policy decision that they would not issue ATM cards to VI person nor they would allow them to avail the facility of Net banking. I have the copy of the Prasanna Pincha case. I have also the copy of the petition which was filed by him. In my view, we should file a public interest petition in the supreme court requesting to issue a clearcut guidelined to public sectre as well as the private banks keeping in view the developements which have taken place with in the area of assistive technology through which we can have access to the net banking facility. I will discuss the judgement in my next mail with you. I am giving you the contact details of mr. pincha so that anyone of you can contact him if one wishes. [EMAIL PROTECTED] office no. 03612638871. home--03612632572. mobile--09435148697. Anand Gupta Lecturer in Law IGNOU. contact no. 09968259651
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(Subramani L) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:39:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dr. Vipin Malhotra" Subject: [AI] final judgement of Prasanna Kumar Pincha Vs. union of India! To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Dear Friends, If anybody has the final judgment on Prasanna Kumar Pincha Vs. Union of India. Please do send at the earliest. I had warned the ICICI Bank of legal action in case they fail to respond to my application for opening a normal account providing all the facilities given to a usual customer. Now they have agreed for providing me the same facilities given I give them an undertaking to this effect that those facilities would be on my own risk. How ever, by mistake I provided them with CCPD judgment on the banking for disabled which lays down this condition that A visually challenged person could be issued a crossed cheque at his own risk by taking an undertaking to this effect from him. If I could have the above said judgment then I could show them the High Court decision which bars such conditions. please do help at the earliest. Dear Amiyo Biswas, You could also show them the same judgment which does away such discrimination. With regards, Vip Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra President, Delhi University Physically Challenged Teachers' Association (DUPHCHTA), Reader, Deptt. of Political Science, Sri Aurobindo College, Delhi University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: +919911113958 Email: Skype Id. vipin.malhotra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amiyo Biswas" To: Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:55 AM Subject: [AI] ATM Cards For the Blind: Information Required. > Hello, > > One of my friends has been refused ATM card by SBI though the branch > manager opened an account after a lot of fuss. I know thatr SBI has issued > ATM cards and some accessible ATM counters have been opened in India. > Would you please inform me the details and also the rules on it? > > Best regards, > > Amiyo. > > Cell: +91-9433464329 > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:46:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dr. Vipin Malhotra" Subject: [AI] fill up a form for contact classes! To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Dear Members, Those who are interested in taking under graduate and post graduate classes in NCBWE Delhi university could apply to the board before 31 March 2007. The eligible qualification for the same is the person should be Post graduate and preferably be teaching in College or the university or conducting research work in the intending field. The classes are held on Saturdays, Sundays and vacations. For details you could contact Delhi Univ. on the Number: 27667725 and ask for the extension to Non-collegiate board for Women Education. With regards, Vip Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra President, Delhi University Physically Challenged Teachers' Association (DUPHCHTA), Reader, Deptt. of Political Science, Sri Aurobindo College, Delhi University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: +919911113958 Email: Skype Id. vipin.malhotra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amiyo Biswas" To: Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:55 AM Subject: [AI] ATM Cards For the Blind: Information Required. > Hello, > > One of my friends has been refused ATM card by SBI though the branch > manager opened an account after a lot of fuss. I know thatr SBI has issued > ATM cards and some accessible ATM counters have been opened in India. > Would you please inform me the details and also the rules on it? > > Best regards, > > Amiyo. > > Cell: +91-9433464329 > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! 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Answers ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: 27 Mar 2007 04:59:57 -0000 From: "Zujar Kanchwala" Subject: Re: [AI] help with excel To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi! It seems that there is some logic behind this. Can you put forth the logic so as to better understand the situation? Regards... On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 Divyanshu Ganatra wrote : >Dear all, > >I needed help on an issue with excel. > >I have an excel sheet with over 200 colums, with the values a,b or c in each >cell. I wanted a formula with which I could substitute the values a,b or c >to 1,0,or 2. I can't use the find and replace function, since the values for >a,b, and c are different for each column. For eg. Sometimes I want to >substitute a with 1, b with 0, and c with 2, while other columns I would >want to substitute a with 0, b with 1 and c with 2. > >So a formula that I can put at the top of each colum should do the trick for >me. I hope I have been able to explain my problem clearly. Thanx for all >your help in advance. > >Divyanshu > > > >-- > >No virus found in this outgoing message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.17/731 - Release Date: 3/23/2007 >3:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.17/731 - Release Date: 3/23/2007 >3:27 PM > >To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject >unsubscribe. > >To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please >visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala Software Engineer, MPHASIS, Hello on 9224429816. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 11:34:31 +0530 From: "Vedprakash Sharma" Subject: Re: [AI] final judgement of Prasanna Kumar Pincha Vs. union of India! To: , Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I wonder, why such cumbersome proceedings were required to open an account in the first place? I have a trading/saving accountwith icici bank. I had mentioned my disability and they had no objections over it. I am using debit card, online trading, internet banking and all other facilities without any undertaking. my case was resolved from their head branch in Mumbai. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Vipin Malhotra" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:09 AM Subject: [AI] final judgement of Prasanna Kumar Pincha Vs. union of India! > Dear Friends, > If anybody has the final judgment on Prasanna Kumar > Pincha Vs. Union of > India. > Please do send at the earliest. > I had warned the ICICI Bank of legal action in case > they fail to respond to > my application for opening a normal account providing > all the facilities > given to a usual customer. Now they have agreed for > providing me the same > facilities given I give them an undertaking to this > effect that those > facilities would be on my own risk. > How ever, by mistake I provided them with CCPD > judgment on the banking for > disabled which lays down this condition that A > visually challenged person > could be issued a crossed cheque at his own risk by > taking an undertaking to > this effect from him. > If I could have the above said judgment then I could > show them the High > Court decision which bars such conditions. > please do help at the earliest. > Dear Amiyo Biswas, You could also show them the same > judgment which does > away such discrimination. > > With regards, > Vip > > Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra > President, > Delhi University Physically Challenged Teachers' > Association (DUPHCHTA), > Reader, > Deptt. of Political Science, Sri Aurobindo College, > Delhi University > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mobile: +919911113958 > Email: > > Skype Id. vipin.malhotra > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Amiyo Biswas" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:55 AM > Subject: [AI] ATM Cards For the Blind: Information > Required. > > >> Hello, >> >> One of my friends has been refused ATM card by SBI > though the branch >> manager opened an account after a lot of fuss. I > know thatr SBI has issued >> ATM cards and some accessible ATM counters have been > opened in India. >> Would you please inform me the details and also the > rules on it? >> >> Best regards, >> >> Amiyo. >> >> Cell: +91-9433464329 >> To unsubscribe send a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make > any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. > http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 11:47:17 +0530 From: "Anjali Arora" Subject: [AI] norton To: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" friends, often my norton anti virus gets disables automatically. it disappears from the system tray and I keep recieving security warning to correct it. in the norton works, the automatic live enable is unchecked and remains unchecked how to resolve this? in such cases, what should be done? what all activity should be avoided? (btw my system is win xp sp2, just in case) thanks ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 11:59:13 +0530 From: "Amiyo Biswas" Subject: Re: [AI] ATM Cards For the Blind: Information Required. To: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, As far as I remember, there are rules for opening of bank account by blind persons. The problem is that most of these facilities depend on the manager's discretion. I had a sb account with SBI in Kolkata. The accounts officer objected to my wife's joining me as partner. Ultimately, the manager agreed after several arguments to allow me to convert it into a joint account with my wife. But the same accounts officer demanded a declaration from me that I shall remain responsible for any untoward incident. It seemed an insult to me and I closed the account then. However, my wife had an old account with UBI. We approached the branch manager and he agreed to accept me as joint partner and continued the cheque facility. I cannot sign my full name. I put my initials only. The bank put my LTI on their register and assured me that I can issue a cheque with the initials if necessary. I do not do it though. All this was possible because the manager's father-in-law recently lost his vision and he faced the same problem. Fortunately for me, the manager's relative found trouble and he realised my trouble too. I do not want all managers' relatives to go blind, of course. Best regards, Amiyo. Cell: +91-9433464329 ----- Original Message ----- From: "fayaz pasha" To: Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [AI] ATM Cards For the Blind: Information Required. > Even I hold an account with SBI but without ATM facility but the manager > though had no problems to open an account. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Amiyo Biswas" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:55 AM > Subject: [AI] ATM Cards For the Blind: Information Required. > > > > Hello, > > > > One of my friends has been refused ATM card by SBI though the branch > manager opened an account after a lot of fuss. I know thatr SBI has issued > ATM cards and some accessible ATM counters have been opened in India. Would > you please inform me the details and also the rules on it? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Amiyo. > > > > Cell: +91-9433464329 > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:17:50 +0530 From: "Subramani L" Subject: Re: [AI] final judgement of Prasanna Kumar Pincha Vs. union ofIndia! To: "Vedprakash Sharma" , Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The same ICICI weren't prepared to give me a s/b account in Bangalore and worse, while I could operate a debit/atm card with Centurian Bank (Chennai), who gave me the facility with the full knowledge of my disability and also allowed me to issue cheques, State Bank of Mysore didn't give me cheque books or ATM/debit cards. They issued it only after my wife became a joint a/c holder. The thing is, officers decide things over the counter without consulting the regulations or orders. In the case of a VI person, they presume too many things and don't even bother to cross check with their HQ, as in your case. So, decisions on issuing cheque book or ATM cards are made arbitrarily. Another example of such decisions is while a previous officer in SBM allowed me to sign on withdrawl slips (with the signature of the person accompanying me to collect the money) another person who took over changed the procedure and asked me lso to affix my thumb impression, and didn't listen to our explanations as to how it's difficult to verify a person's thumb impression. So, I feel, banks, especially the national banks, though the safest option for us to deposit our money, are not disabled friendly. Subramani -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vedprakash Sharma Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [AI] final judgement of Prasanna Kumar Pincha Vs. union ofIndia! *********************** No virus was detected in the attachment no filename Your mail has been scanned by InterScan. ***********-*********** I wonder, why such cumbersome proceedings were required to open an account in the first place? I have a trading/saving accountwith icici bank. I had mentioned my disability and they had no objections over it. I am using debit card, online trading, internet banking and all other facilities without any undertaking. my case was resolved from their head branch in Mumbai. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Vipin Malhotra" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:09 AM Subject: [AI] final judgement of Prasanna Kumar Pincha Vs. union of India! > Dear Friends, > If anybody has the final judgment on Prasanna Kumar > Pincha Vs. Union of > India. > Please do send at the earliest. > I had warned the ICICI Bank of legal action in case > they fail to respond to > my application for opening a normal account providing > all the facilities > given to a usual customer. Now they have agreed for > providing me the same > facilities given I give them an undertaking to this > effect that those > facilities would be on my own risk. > How ever, by mistake I provided them with CCPD > judgment on the banking for > disabled which lays down this condition that A > visually challenged person > could be issued a crossed cheque at his own risk by > taking an undertaking to > this effect from him. > If I could have the above said judgment then I could > show them the High > Court decision which bars such conditions. > please do help at the earliest. > Dear Amiyo Biswas, You could also show them the same > judgment which does > away such discrimination. > > With regards, > Vip > > Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra > President, > Delhi University Physically Challenged Teachers' > Association (DUPHCHTA), > Reader, > Deptt. of Political Science, Sri Aurobindo College, === message truncated === --------------------------------- Heres a new way to find what you're looking for - Yahoo! Answers To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
