Hi Harish Thank you for telling me about INS+Z. I din't know that Jaws had this feature of actually turning the virtual PC cursor off.
For your success Syed Imran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harish Kotian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > Hi Syed > A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z. > Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from > the > virtual buffer. > Harish. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > > >> Hi Moiz >> >> Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running >> Windows XP? If not, no problem. >> Just try this and let us know >> >> 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit >> Jaws. >> 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter >> You should hear an old man speaking. This is called "Narrator". It is a >> screen-reading software comes with Windows XP. >> 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you already >> have opened >> Making sure that your Jaws is inactive, >> 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C >> 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator. >> 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result. >> I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't >> work >> Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your >> collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com? >> >> For your success >> Syed Imran >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. >> >> >>> Hello sir. >>> >>> Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. >>> Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to >>> exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the >>> journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. >>> Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this >>> is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. >>> Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. >>> I'm clueless. >>> Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was >>> said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any >>> difference? >>> Moiz. >>> >>> Message: 11 >>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 >>> From: "Syed Imran" < >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. >>> To: < >>> [email protected]> >>> >>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> Hello Moiz and my dear list members, >>> >>> This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any >>> data >>> from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. >>> I >>> assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy >>> the >>> exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you >>> that >>> the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope >>> you >>> don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail >>> carefully. >>> Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious >>> technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web >>> documents >>> accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual PC >>> cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, >>> links, >>> formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called >>> "Virtualising". Virtualising includes finding out the different elements >>> on >>> a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a >>> seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a >>> sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by >>> an >>> example. >>> I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how >>> exactly >>> a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for >>> us. >>> I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to >>> understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet >>> explorer >>> >>> I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not >>> virtualised) >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: >>> >>> Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The >>> fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough >>> salt >>> is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are >>> added. The pickle >>> are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to >>> stir >>> and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon >>> is >>> used. >>> >>> In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying "Link" in the middle >>> of >>> the line. I think this is how a "link" element appears on the screen. >>> But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the line >>> to >>> present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to >>> an >>> extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about >>> the >>> same in the 2nd illustration: >>> ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised) >>> >>> The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: >>> >>> Some >>> LINK fruits and >>> LINK vegetables >>> preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is >>> cut >>> into pieces and enough salt >>> is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. >>> LINK Oil >>> and >>> LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a >>> Link dry jar >>> with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from >>> the >>> jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. >>> >>> ------------ >>> >>> So this is how Jaws arranges the data in the web page after >>> virtualising. >>> However, when you copy this text to Microsoft Word, you will observe the >>> text broken something like this: >>> >>> Some >>> fruits and >>> vegetables >>> Instead of: >>> Some fruits and vegetables >>> We can surely remove the line breaks by pressing CTRL+downarrow and then >>> back space followed by space bar as Vetry said, but it takes lot of >>> time. >>> Especially the lengthy documents. So when you want to copy anything from >>> internet explorer, don't use selecting keys like Shift+downarrow, or >>> ctrl+A >>> to select the text. follow these simple steps exactly to copy the exact >>> information without line or page breaks. >>> >>> 1. Open the web page from which you want to copy >>> >>> 2. Press Alt+E to pull down edit menu. >>> >>> 3. Choose "Select all," by pressing A. >>> We can't press CTRL+A directly instead of pulling down edit menu because >>> Jaws will select from its virtual buffer. And I think Moiz, this could >>> be >>> the cause of your problem. >>> >>> 4. Again pull down the edit menu (Alt E) and choose copy by pressing C. >>> Now what actually happens is that when you select all and copy from the >>> edit >>> menu, the data gets directly copied from Internet explorer and not from >>> Jaws >>> virtual buffer. >>> >>> 5. Open Microsoft word with a new document. >>> >>> 6. Paste whatever is copied from internet. >>> This will paste the entire web page in your new documents including >>> pictures, tables, links etc. >>> >>> 7. Keep whatever you want and delete unnecessary stuff. >>> >>> Some tips: >>> >>> 1. If you don't want pictures, tables and links, then paste it in >>> notepad >>> and then copy it to Microsoft word >>> >>> 2. However if you want tables, then paste it in wordpad and after >>> selecting >>> the pasted text, copy it to Microsoft word. >>> >>> 3. If you suspect that there are hyperlinks still in the edited >>> document, >>> press CTRL+A and press CTRL+SHIFT+F9 to clear the hyperlink attribute >>> from >>> the entire document. >>> >>> I am still searching for some easier way to copy from web pages and will >>> be >>> thankful if anyone could help in this regard. >>> >>> For your success >>> >>> Syed Imran >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. 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