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----- Original Message ----- From: "mahendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [AI] The blind diplomat > but we are forgetting about both blind life partners in this discussion, > only mairring blind person, does not mean automatik social exclusion > like weis having sighted partner is not an ticket to social inclution!! > > Rajesh, so many sighted girl mairry blind boy's, because they are toled > upon > to do so, not because of love, but mostly for economic reason. > and in social interaction those sighted wife's are only sighted > women,nothing more then that. > > > > > At 07:11 AM 7/10/2007, you wrote: >>Well, he maybe. and I do not, for a second, doubt that a blind person, >>[including myself], may be happily married. >> >>However, blindness surely is a factor in matrimonial choice, as are other >>factors like economic security and many more. >> >>I get a feeling that some members regard matrimony purely a matter of >>choice >>and would not appreciate use of termslike exclusion etc. This is so, >>because >>we tend to construe such terms in purely legal or nowadays economic sense. >>However, social exclusion is as real a phenonmenon as any other aspect of >>exclusion. Many of us must have experienced it in even mundane daily >>activities like conversation etc. wwhen one abruptly discovers that the >>person one is talking to has already shifted his/her attention to some >>other >>person or thing, or worse more, has left the place. We tend to take all >>such >>things in our stride, however this does not dinimish their reality. >> >>When it is true of such mundane activities, it would only be delusional >>not >>to apply it to more grave choices like matrimony etc. >> >>Basic attitudes form the core of various interactions including social, >>economic, official and even legal. Reality of various realms is not so at >>odds with eachother. >> >>I am not trying to statistically prove the cause and effect relationship >>or >>correlation between blindness and marriage, though it may form a good >>research topic in some disciplines. However, mutual impact of above facts >>on >>one another can not be denied. >> >>Let me present a crude generalisation. It is definitely easy for a blind >>boy >>to marry a sighted girl than for a blind girl to find a sighted life >>partner. This is the reason of gross mismatch between the number of >>couples >>belonging to former type than those belonging to later. >> >>Regards >>Rajesh >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:55 PM >>Subject: Re: [AI] The blind diplomat >> >> >> > David blunket was married and divorced. >> > This is not a matter of exclusion, but a matter of choice. >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 3:07 PM >> > Subject: Re: [AI] The blind diplomat >> > >> > >> > Yes, I do also inclined to hold the same opinion, even David Blunket >> > seems >> > not to have married! >> > >> > Exclusion is ubiqutous. >> > >> > Rajesh >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "dr.u.n.sinha narain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >> > <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 1:28 AM >> > Subject: Re: [AI] The blind diplomat >> > >> > >> >>i met mr. rabby. i saw his capacities, when i met him in lucknow. >> >> since he is transferred from india, i could not contact him, as i do >> >> not have his e mail now. my questionis the gentle man is so qualified >> >> but why he has not married? is it general blind problem everywhere? >> >> regards >> >> drun >> >> >> >> On 7/8/07, Geetha Shamanna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> The Saturday Profile >> >>> >> >>> A U.S. Diplomat With an Extraordinary Global View >> >>> >> >>> By [4]MARC LACEY >> >>> >> >>> PORT OF SPAIN, [5]Trinidad >> >>> >> >>> AS chief of the political section at the American Embassy here >> >>> for >> >>> the >> >>> last two years, Avraham Rabby has had the job of surveying >> >>> Trinidads >> >>> political landscape for Washington. >> >>> >> >>> The fact that he has not actually seen the Caribbean island or >> >>> any >> >>> of >> >>> the places on five continents where he has been posted has not >> >>> stymied >> >>> him. >> >>> >> >>> I necessarily listen more than a sighted person would, he said. >> >>> If >> >>> Im >> >>> walking along a street, I can tell there is a building next to >> >>> me >> >>> because of the echoes of my feet or my cane. A blind person sees >> >>> the >> >>> world differently from a sighted person. Our impressions are no >> >>> less >> >>> valid. >> >>> >> >>> Mr. Rabby, who lost his sight at the age of 8 because of >> >>> detached >> >>> retinas, is the State Departments first blind diplomat. It is an >> >>> achievement he fought for in the 1980s, passing three written >> >>> entrance >> >>> exams and two oral exercises along the way. But even then, the >> >>> State >> >>> Department barred him from the diplomatic corps. >> >>> >> >>> You dont ask a blind person to drive a bus or be a bank teller, >> >>> George >> >>> S. Vest, who was the personnel director for the Foreign Service, >> >>> explained in a 1988 interview. There are jobs which are >> >>> dangerous >> >>> or >> >>> unsuitable for them. And in the Foreign Service, were full of >> >>> jobs >> >>> like that. >> >>> >> >>> The department contended that diplomats, blind ones included, >> >>> had >> >>> to >> >>> be able to work anywhere in the world and to work with >> >>> confidential >> >>> documents without any outside aid. In addition, State Department >> >>> officials said, diplomats had to be able to pick up on nonverbal >> >>> cues, >> >>> such as winks or nods, which can sometimes have more meaning >> >>> than >> >>> the >> >>> words being uttered. >> >>> >> >>> But Mr. Rabby illustrated another essential quality of >> >>> diplomats: >> >>> perseverance. No international treaty has ever been decided on >> >>> the >> >>> basis of a wink or a nod, he retorted, after hiring a lawyer and >> >>> challenging the State Departments policy, which dated from the >> >>> 18th >> >>> century. >> >>> >> >>> Aiding Mr. Rabbys effort was a federal law barring the >> >>> government >> >>> from >> >>> disqualifying prospective employees because of disabilities. >> >>> Eventually, after the news media and Congress found out about >> >>> his >> >>> case, the State Department reversed course. The new policy would >> >>> consider disabled diplomats on a case-by-case basis. Mr. Rabby >> >>> became >> >>> case No. 1. >> >>> >> >>> In 1990, he was off to London, where he was posted at the >> >>> embassy >> >>> there as a junior political officer. He moved next to Pretoria, >> >>> South >> >>> Africa, where [6]Nelson Mandela had just been freed from prison >> >>> and >> >>> where Mr. Rabby witnessed the countrys first free elections. It >> >>> was >> >>> one of the most stimulating experiences in my life, he said, >> >>> noting >> >>> that he was one of the embassys election observers. >> >>> >> >>> People ask me how I can assess a political rally if I cant see >> >>> it, >> >>> he >> >>> said. I tell them that I listen to the crowd and to the >> >>> speakers. >> >>> You >> >>> can sense what is going on. >> >>> >> >>> He spent time in Washington at the State Departments Bureau of >> >>> Human >> >>> Rights, and in postings in Lima and New Delhi. During a stint at >> >>> the >> >>> United States Mission to the [7]United Nations, he helped write >> >>> resolutions dealing with literacy, global health and the rights >> >>> of >> >>> the >> >>> disabled. >> >>> >> >>> His final posting he retired at the end of June at the mandatory >> >>> retirement age of 65 was to Port of Spain, where he became an >> >>> expert >> >>> in Trinidads political system, which has long been divided >> >>> between >> >>> parties, one predominantly Afro-Trinidadian and one >> >>> Indo-Trinidadian. >> >>> >> >>> When journalists descended on Trinidad recently in search of >> >>> information on the suspected plot to set off a bomb at a fuel >> >>> line >> >>> at >> >>> Kennedy International Airport that was traced back to this >> >>> Caribbean >> >>> island, he became one of the officials to talk to. >> >>> >> >>> A diplomat does a lot of writing, a lot of reading, a lot of >> >>> thinking, >> >>> a lot of talking and has to attend a lot of meetings, he said. >> >>> Thanks >> >>> to technological advances and a full-time assistant, Mr. Rabby >> >>> could >> >>> do all of those things too. >> >>> >> >>> He wrote his cables to Washington using a machine that wrote in >> >>> Braille. He then read them back to his assistant, Rhonda Singh, >> >>> who >> >>> typed them up. He also had a computer with a speech program that >> >>> allowed him to listen to his e-mail messages. >> >>> >> >>> As for tracking news developments, Ms. Singh, an American >> >>> citizen >> >>> who >> >>> lives in Trinidad, read him the local papers. I was basically >> >>> his >> >>> eyes, she said. >> >>> >> >>> BORN in Israel, Mr. Rabby, who is known as Rami, was sent to >> >>> live >> >>> with >> >>> an aunt in England at the age of 10 because his parents believed >> >>> there >> >>> were better schools for the blind there. A Hebrew speaker, he >> >>> quickly >> >>> mastered English at Worcester College for Blind Boys. >> >>> >> >>> I remember the headmaster used to go out and speak to groups >> >>> about >> >>> the >> >>> school, and he used to say that we teach our boys to stand on >> >>> their >> >>> own two feet and, if necessary, to step on yours too, Mr. Rabby >> >>> recalled. >> >>> >> >>> He went off to Oxford, where he studied French and Spanish. >> >>> Finding >> >>> a >> >>> job after college proved a challenge. Time and time again I met >> >>> recruiters who felt that a blind person could not work in >> >>> management, >> >>> he said in the British accent that he has never lost. >> >>> >> >>> Eventually, he joined Ford Motor Company in Britain, where he >> >>> worked >> >>> in human resources. After about a year, he moved to the United >> >>> States >> >>> and earned an M.B.A. at the [8]University of Chicago. >> >>> >> >>> After graduation in 1969, he sought out a management training >> >>> program, >> >>> but had few offers after dozens and dozens, if not hundreds of >> >>> interviews. >> >>> >> >>> He finally landed a job with a management consulting firm, >> >>> Hewitt >> >>> Associates, and later moved to Citibank. He also spent time as >> >>> an >> >>> independent consultant, writing a number of employment guides, >> >>> including one giving advice to blind job seekers. >> >>> >> >>> One of my problems in my working life, after a few years I get a >> >>> bit >> >>> tired of what I am doing and I want to change, said Mr. Rabby, >> >>> who >> >>> became an American citizen in 1980. >> >>> >> >>> It was while living in New York that he decided to make the jump >> >>> into >> >>> international relations, a longtime interest. The State >> >>> Departments >> >>> regular rotations of its diplomats proved a perfect fit. >> >>> >> >>> His fight to join the Foreign Service has helped others along >> >>> the >> >>> way. >> >>> There are now four blind Foreign Service officers stationed >> >>> around >> >>> the >> >>> globe, the State Department said, among about 170 disabled >> >>> Foreign >> >>> Service employees overseas. >> >>> >> >>> MR. RABBY said blind Foreign Service officers had recently been >> >>> restricted from adjudicating visa applications because of their >> >>> inability to verify photographs and signatures of applications. >> >>> >> >>> Mr. Rabby, who attributes the decision to the increased >> >>> restrictions >> >>> after the Sept. 11 attacks, said he did visa work at the start >> >>> of >> >>> his >> >>> career in London, with the assistance of a reader, who verified >> >>> documents for him. He asked the questions and assessed the >> >>> responses. >> >>> >> >>> The State Department is not yet completely on the side of the >> >>> angels, >> >>> he said. A State Department official disputed that there was a >> >>> policy >> >>> in place restricting the assignments of blind diplomats. >> >>> Decisions >> >>> on >> >>> assigning personnel, the official said, are made on a >> >>> case-by-case >> >>> basis in accordance with the law. >> >>> >> >>> Even before Mr. Rabby headed out into the world as a diplomat, >> >>> he >> >>> was >> >>> already testifying before Congress on his quest for the job. He >> >>> said >> >>> back then that he did not want to be put in a pigeonhole as a >> >>> blind >> >>> diplomat. >> >>> >> >>> Blind people are as different from one another as sighted >> >>> people, >> >>> he >> >>> told members of the House Foreign Affairs and Civil Service >> >>> Committees >> >>> in 1989. 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