Kanchan Pamnani, Madam, Please define inclusion and accessibility with respect to mentally disabled and physically disabled. Also give me a legal definition of mental illness.
To tell you frankly, I don’t know what is exactly in the RPD bill. But I am sure that it is far better than the existing law. Even if there are miner problems, it can be corrected through amendments. I am curious on the fact that while many acts get tens and hundreds of amendments, the PWD act has not got any amendment in 20 years. Now it is more than 2 decades and much has changed and amending this act is useless. But at least the forth coming act should get amendments as and when needed. But some major problems if any, should be corrected in the beginning. But, that should not lead at any cost to undue delaying of the passing. I don’t support the delay. Now why I put above 2 questions is, there is lot of difference in rehabilitation, inclusion of these 2 kinds of disabilities. The identification, needs and possibilities are different. The employability of physically disabled and mentally disabled is different. As per the central government rules issued as per Supreme Court guidelines, the 3 percent reservation should be calculated on the basis of entire cadre, and the same number of posts be reserved within the identified categories of posts. What if the identified posts are different for different disability? What if the number of posts in the 2 groups are different? i.e. suppose there are 100 posts reserved for VH and 500 posts are identified for OH? Certainly the quota for these 2 should be different. And then what should be the policy for shifting the posts within different subcategories of disability? This is a complicated issue and needs to be solved. As per PWD act, if eligible candidates are not available for a notified post, it should be kept backlog and not be shifted to other kinds of disabilities until the next recruitment. But, most of the recruiting agencies don’t know this and not implementing this. In one of my RTI cases, even the Karnataka Public Service Commission and even the then Karnataka Information Commissioner thought that it can easily be shifted to other disabilities in the same recruitment. Intrasectoral differences and disputes are being misused by governments to delay and deny the provisions I agree. But, we have to understand that there are some real concerns and issues in this regard. Yesterday I went to the 30th annual meeting of Karnataka State Government Disabled Employees’ Association. There was a voice from one of the members from Vidhanasowda (administrative building of the state government) itself that Visually challenged are not properly concerned and represented in the association. He seemed so disappointed that he expressed willingness to give up the membership. I am not a right person to comment on the issue since I am junior in the association and not have the right experience. But from outside it gives a clue from the fact that most of the core committee officers are orthopaedically challenged. All this is outside legal matters I know. But let it not have its way into legal matters as well. Encroachment should not be there within disabled communities and there should be legal provisions to protect it. when mental disability is added, the problem will agrovate. Umesha On 1/28/16, sudarsanan etthirajan <[email protected]> wrote: > since already VH quotas filled by other disabilities on the basis of > suitability when you include mental disability it will encroach all > quotas. > e. sudarsanan. > > On 1/28/16, Anirban Mukherjee <[email protected]> wrote: >> friends, >> >> the passage of the bill has become some sort of a snake and ladder >> game, it seems. firstly, it demonstrates an absolute lack of positive >> intent in the ruling elite of this country, whichever political >> formation they might seek to represent. secondly, there is a sectarian >> tendency within the sector itself, that is to say, one group of >> persons with a certain disability is reluctant to understand the pains >> and the difficulties of another. it is cleverly and subtly utilised by >> the government to create division amongst us thereby delaying the >> discussion and passage of the legislation which is long overdue. now, >> Ms Gandhi has put another spanner and the whole process, i am afraid, >> is being delayed for almost an year more. >> >> Greetings, Anirban Mukherjee >> >> On 1/27/16, Kanchan Pamnani <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Umesha "Otherwise we >>> loose a lot." Please explain. I don’t think we the visually impaired will >>> lose anything at all. In fact we the visually impaired have lost because >>> the law has been delayed and will now get further delayed because of the >>> split amongst the Ministers. >>> Kanchan >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Umesha S E >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:20 PM >>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerning >>> the disabled. >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Maneka raises objections to proposed Disability Bill >>> >>> Certainly inclusion of physical and mental disabilities are entirely >>> different things. I do support that these 2 be separated. Otherwise we >>> loose a lot. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/27/16, Asudani, Rajesh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> of course. >>>> I have been saying this since long >>>> But nobody listens. >>>> >>>> >>>> सादर / With thanks & Regards >>>> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani >>>> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM >>>> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU >>>> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India >>>> नागपुर Nagpur >>>> >>>> 0712 2806846 >>>> >>>> President >>>> VIBEWA >>>> Co-Moderator >>>> VIB-India >>>> >>>> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and >>>> laughter. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of George Abraham >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 5:49 PM >>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>>> concerning >>>> the disabled.' >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Maneka raises objections to proposed Disability Bill >>>> >>>> I seriously think mental disabilities should be separated from physical >>>> disabilities. People might not agree with this but I believe that a >>>> number >>>> of possibilities of inclusion are lost because people tend to club the >>>> two >>>> streams. There should be two distinct bills. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of avinash shahi >>>> Sent: 26 January 2016 16:51 >>>> To: accessindia >>>> Subject: [AI] Maneka raises objections to proposed Disability Bill >>>> >>>> http://www.siasat.com/news/maneka-raises-objections-proposed-disability-bil >>>> l-907277/ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Avinash Shahi >>>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU >>>> >>>> >>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>>> of >>>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessin >>>> dia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Search for old postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>> [email protected] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please visit the list home page at >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Disclaimer: >>>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >>>> the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its >>>> veracity; >>>> >>>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>>> mails >>>> sent through this mailing list.. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>>> of >>>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Search for old postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>> [email protected] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please >>>> visit the list home page at >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Disclaimer: >>>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >>>> the >>>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >>>> >>>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>>> mails >>>> sent through this mailing list.. >>>> >>>> Caution: The Reserve Bank of India never sends mails, SMSs or makes >>>> calls >>>> asking for personal information such as your bank account details, >>>> passwords, etc. It never keeps or offers funds to anyone. Please do not >>>> respond in any manner to such offers, however official or attractive >>>> they >>>> may look. >>>> >>>> Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential >>>> and >>>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >>>> addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, >>>> use, >>>> review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained >>>> in >>>> this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If >>>> you >>>> have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or >>>> telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any >>>> attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments >>>> for >>>> the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability >>>> for >>>> any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. >>>> >>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>>> of >>>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Search for old postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>> [email protected] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please >>>> visit the list home page at >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Disclaimer: >>>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >>>> the >>>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >>>> >>>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>>> mails >>>> sent through this mailing list.. >>>> >>> >>> >>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>> of >>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> [email protected] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >>> the >>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >>> >>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>> mails >>> sent through this mailing list.. >>> >>> >>> >>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>> of >>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> [email protected] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >>> the >>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >>> >>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>> mails >>> sent through this mailing list.. >>> >> >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> [email protected] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the >> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails >> sent through this mailing list.. >> > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > [email protected] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
