All Although this an important topic. However, nothing new is emerging and it is time we close the thread.
Harish Kotian -----Original Message----- From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Avichal Bhatnagar Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 12:06 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AI] Deification of the disabled in the media Agree with you George Sir, but if any media person tries to take a wrong approach in the interview, shouldn't we tell him this there itself? Since Ashish did not have a problem, therefore we need to respect this interview. And its not poor journalism at all in my opinion. There are many approaches towards disability, and we need to respect them equally. On 1/30/18, George Abraham <[email protected]> wrote: > Media persons and society have very low expectation from persons with > disability. They consider it awesome when someone with disability > lives a normal life . They think it is incredible. While it is > important to showcase stories of so called achievers, it is also > critical to focus on inputs that helped the person get to where he or > she has got to. Journeys of people who have made their mark are not > only inspirational, they are also educative and informative. While > assistive technology is important, quality of education is paramount. > The blind citizens of India receive education that is pathetic. It is > a miracle that people are still emerging and making a mark. > > On another note Arnabh claims to be a personal friend of Ashish. He > mentioned this to me when I had met with him during the India > Inclusive Summit a couple of years ago. Perhaps he knows enough to be > able to conduct an interview with Ashish. This interview should be put > down to poor journalism, insensitivity and irresponsibility. This happens all > the time. > There are a number of things that are wrong with how people cover > disability in the media. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Dinesh Kaushal > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 9:32 AM > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerning the disabled.' > Subject: Re: [AI] Deification of the disabled in the media > > Yes, I had observed earlier that he used to do extensive research > before interviewing popular people. > > Which means he didn't do his homework before interviewing Ashish. This > instance shows how much importance he accorded to the topic of disability. > > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 9:08 AM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerning the disabled. <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AI] Deification of the disabled in the media > > I agree - it was clear that Arnab had done no preparation for the > interview or made the slightest attempt to figure how they function. > Not a single question was based on specifics. It was clear that the > sole purpose of the interview was to drive home the point that this is so > inspiring. > > Best, > Rahul > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 29, 2018, at 10:54 PM, Turabh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> If the media wants to confer celebrity status on the disabled , >> they > ought to at least prepare specific questions. Parroting the same > thread for all disabled persons is pointless and baseless . >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 29-Jan-2018, at 9:40 PM, Rahul Bajaj <[email protected]> > wrote: >>> >>> Avichal, in addition to the brilliant points that Alok and Dinesh >>> have > made, I also think that it is worth remembering that this interview is > in many ways emblematic of the way mainstream media views the > disabled. So the interview cannot be viewed in isolation. Further, how > often do mainstream anchors like Arnab cover the disabled? Given how > rarely this happens, it is important for us to ensure that the > portrayal is not such as to reinforce harmful stereotypes. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jan 29, 2018, at 8:12 PM, Dinesh Kaushal >>>> <[email protected]> > wrote: >>>> >>>> You are right that we should not tell Ashish how he should >>>> represent his > situation. >>>> >>>> But we can certainly discuss among ourselves how we want to be > represented and whether we could do anything to change that. Anyone of > us who have any experience regarding media, know that often we do not > have much control about how we want to be represented. >>>> >>>> We can also discuss what things we want to represent, but each > individual has full right how they want to be represented. >>>> >>>> Having said that, there are also some reasons why it would help >>>> everyone > if we could dimistify why we achieved what we did. Actually the point > of such interviews is not that we just praise people, we should also > learn how they did what they did. So I can only request everyone that > please acknowledge role of assistive technology when you talk about > your achievements. >>>> >>>> Not acknowledging role of assistive technology is equivalent for a > scientist not disclosing the tools used for the discovery and just > claiming that she discovered what she did. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> On Behalf Of Avichal Bhatnagar >>>> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 6:31 PM >>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>>> concerning the disabled. <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Deification of the disabled in the media >>>> >>>> Well, I completely disagree with this. >>>> If Ashish doesn't find anything wrong in the way his interview was > conducted, then who are we to impose our viewpoint on him? >>>> Its high time that we stop poking our noses unnecessarily in every > affair. >>>> >>>>> On 1/29/18, Rahul Bajaj <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Thanks for your thoughtful responses, everyone. I did engage with >>>>> Ashish on this issue on Twitter, and our conversation can be found >>>>> here: https://twitter.com/Rahul400/with_replies >>>>> His handle is InsaneOdyssey. >>>>> >>>>> To his credit, he did appreciate my viewpoint but was of the view >>>>> that all accomplishments should be celebrated, by the able-bodied >>>>> or the disabled. With respect, I think that did not address the >>>>> central point that I was trying to make. >>>>> >>>>> Based on Alok's suggestion, I think we should write an open letter >>>>> to Arnab and get it published on a platform like the Wire or >>>>> Scroll. I am happy to craft it and share it with others who concur >>>>> with the sentiment that I have voiced here. I think these >>>>> principles are important and ought to be voiced, irrespective of >>>>> how many people read them. Does this make sense? >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Rahul >>>>> >>>>>> On 29/01/2018, wheelchairman.nlc <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Please clarify whether SC/SC or OBC fall under state list or >>>>>> concurrent list. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. >>>>>> -------- Original message --------From: avinash shahi >>>>>> <[email protected]> Date: 29/01/2018 15:33 (GMT+05:30) To: >>>>>> "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>>>>> concerning the disabled." <[email protected]> Subject: >>>>>> Re: [AI] Deification of the disabled in the media This discussion >>>>>> reminds me of the late Stella Young who put is so bluntly that >>>>>> disabled people are presented as 'inspiration porn' by the media. >>>>>> In India our Prime Minister himself is hellbent in bestowing >>>>>> divinity to our ordinary and mortal lives. For those interested >>>>>> who have joined the group lately or have missed reading it >>>>>> earlier, can find time to read my write up written over the >>>>>> divinity issue which was appeared in the Tribune. "Deifying >>>>>> people > with disabilities a cruel joke" >>>>>> http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/comment/deifying-people-with-dis >>>>>> a >>>>>> bil >>>>>> ities-a-cruel-joke/181902.html >>>>>> Best >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/29/18, Alok Kaushik <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> Rahul, Dinesh and Payal have already put down the essence of >>>>>>> this discussion. While we can keep putting down our views >>>>>>> amongst ourselves, it would be better if they are heard by >>>>>>> those who perpetuate these stereotypes. Would it be good idea >>>>>>> to collect more views on this thread, collate them in form of >>>>>>> an article, and send it to Arnab Goswami. >>>>>>> Ideally it would be best if Ashish sends it, but I am not sure >>>>>>> if he would be willing to do it. If anyone on this list >>>>>>> interacts with him at a personal level, he / she can possibly >>>>>>> convey this to him. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> Alok >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: AccessIndia >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>> On Behalf Of Dinesh Kaushal >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 10:05 AM >>>>>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>>>>>> concerning the disabled.' >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Deification of the disabled in the media >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for starting conversation on an important topic. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The way media houses distort and push people around is >>>>>>> well-known. I think that Arnab Goswami would not have allowed >>>>>>> Ashish to say what he might have wanted to say. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It was evident from the way Arnab constantly kept saying that I >>>>>>> want people to get inspired. So he might have not allowed him to >>>>>>> talk about role of assistive technology. The reason that Arnab >>>>>>> might have not allowed that description is that the fact that >>>>>>> technology could help people with blindness would not make him >>>>>>> look > so super human. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Even then, I feel that we have missed a great opportunity to >>>>>>> bring awareness about how assistive technology could help >>>>>>> millions. As Rahul said, This instance highlights that we should >>>>>>> not help in perpetuating these harmful stereotypes. I also >>>>>>> suggest that we need to be vigilant about our responsibility of >>>>>>> making people aware about how technology has made so many things >>>>>>> possible. Granted that it has become part of our lives so much >>>>>>> that we may not realize that for people who have no exposure to >>>>>>> these technologies, this could be the difference in making us >>>>>>> look super human vs people using specialized tool that anyone >>>>>>> could > learn. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For those who might want to be seen as amazing people, even >>>>>>> though when we show people how technology helps us to do regular >>>>>>> stuff, people think we are so inspirational! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: AccessIndia >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 9:58 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: [AI] Deification of the disabled in the media >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope this message finds you well. I recently came across >>>>>>> Ashish Goyal's interview to Arnab Goswami on Republic TV that >>>>>>> was conducted on Republic >>>>>>> Day: >>>>>>> http://www.republicworld.com/s/20590/meet-the-first-visually-imp >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> ire >>>>>>> d-person >>>>>>> -to-attend-wharton-business-school >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At the outset, I think what Mr. Goyal has achieved is truly >>>>>>> commendable and worthy of appreciation. Despite the odds being >>>>>>> heavily stacked against him, he has overcome challenges that >>>>>>> most would have considered insurmountable. >>>>>>> However, I was somewhat troubled by the manner in which Mr. >>>>>>> Goswami sought to construct his narrative. More specifically, he > called Mr. >>>>>>> Goyal an inspiration multiple times and framed his questions in >>>>>>> such a way that they made Mr. Goyal appear superhuman. For >>>>>>> instance, the interviewers considered him an expert on >>>>>>> overcoming obstacles as a student merely on the ground that he >>>>>>> has been able to accomplish so much despite his disability. This >>>>>>> got me thinking about whether the deification of the disabled in >>>>>>> this > fashion is a healthy phenomenon. >>>>>>> Doesn't it help perpetuate their otherization and alienation >>>>>>> which we work so hard to break down? Also, I wonder if we, as >>>>>>> disabled interviewees, have an obligation to actively engage >>>>>>> with interviewers to ensure that we are not helping perpetuate >>>>>>> these harmful stereotypes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To be clear, I don't have anything against Mr. Goyal personally. >>>>>>> Indeed, I confess to being all too willing to be made the >>>>>>> subject matter of news stories like these. I do think that such >>>>>>> stories serve the valuable purpose of driving home the point >>>>>>> that, with access to opportunities and resources, there is >>>>>>> nothing that the disabled cannot achieve. 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