Please continue current practises. When the guidelines change you will be informed. Status quo as of today. Kanchan
-----Original Message----- From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lyngdoh Sent: 26 June 2018 13:12 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines Can someone help me out with scribe for SBI PO 2018 exams... I mean what qualification shall I ask for from my to be scribe then? In the past I have always looked for graduates. On 6/26/18, Asudani, Rajesh <[email protected]> wrote: > Congrats! > Retention of capacity to choose own scribe, though less in > qualification than oneself, along with freedom to use devices, and > meet the scribe two days in advance is a superb victory. > > At least folks now at least, stop using professional scribes. > Accessible exams, if online or computerized, is the ultimate dream. > > > सादर / With thanks & Regards > राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani > सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM > बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU > भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur > > 0712 2806846 > > President > VIBEWA > Co-Moderator > VIB-India > > A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and > laughter. > > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani > Sent: 25 June 2018 16:18 > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerning the disabled.' > Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines > > Sorry folks for not reporting for 2 days. A lot of you have already > heard what happened but let me explain a few issues > > 1. You all know that in 2013 we got new guidelines for the use of > scribes. This was far and beyond what had been given by Courts and > definitely more than what we had demanded at different times. > > 2. So far about one year there was not too much of a problem because > no one really implemented the guidelines. > > 3. Then the penny dropped-U PS C and others started saying that these > guidelines were unfair. > > 4. Some of our own VI candidates decided that these guidelines gave > them the right to have overqualified or should I say coached writers. > > 5. Our other VI who suffered because of the special writers > complained > to U P S C and to the Courts-Bombay and Eranakulam I am told. > > 6. Then the Government set up our committee. We met about 3 times but > could not agree so the MSJE set up a sub-committee. > > 7. This subcommittee gave a report which we had to discuss at this > meeting on 20th June. > > 8. I had shared the sub-committee's report and the comments of U PS C > and SSC. > > 9. Our meeting started an hour and half late because the Secretary > had > gone to meet the Minister. > > 10. Before she came in the other committee members gave theiropinion on > the subcommittees report. Only Mr. Rungta and I were left to give our > comments when the Secretary arrived and we started the formal meeting. > > 11. It was quite a hot debate. > > 12. The problem with govt agencies is that they don't send the same > person > to the followup meetings. This includes U P S C and our own NIVH. This > hampers progressive discussion and we cannot pin the representative down. > > 13. There was no problem with compensatory time etc. The recommendations > of the Sub-committee were accepted. > > 14. So what have we won or should I say retained-the first right of the > candidate to choose his scribe. If not available then the Examining > body can provide not less than a matriculate. > > 15. Further you can meet your scribe 2 days in advance. > > 16. Some other devices etc for other disabilities that can be used.Our > committee added to Sub committee recommendations. This added to the > original guidelines. > > 17. The only problem with the subcommittee's suggestion is that they are > not allowing you to use your own laptop. I however feel that this > should not be in the guidelines. I know atleast 2 members on this > list who have used their own laptops and didn't have a problem after > explanations. This may be considered to be a loss and squarely attributable > to the subcommittee. > > 18. Now the loss that will bother us some day-the scribe has to be less > in > qualification than the candidate. > > 19. So this guideline has got nothing to do with the exam but only with > the candidate. Keeping in mind that the minimum educational > qualification for a scribe is matriculation. This does not sound too > bad but ground realities will tell. > > 20. So the meeting ended about three and half hours later with 2 cups of > tea and 4 biscuits thrown in. The Secretary will have to report to the > courts. > > 21. The fact that we have the right to choose our own scribe is going to > be debated over and over again until we stop the malpractises and each > of you reading my email or whatsapp need to take care of the > situation. You are responsible for what lies ahead. I know the > argument about supervision. > > 22. It is not an easy task to take the whole room on by just 2 people. We > did it because you gave us strength. We were prepared and many weren't. > However it has taken lots of persuasion, anger, raised voices and a > lot of diplomacy. > > 23. What will let us down is the continuous use of professional scribes. > > > 24. Please help by giving me the reference to the Bombay High Court and > Eranakulam cases. We will have to intervene. > > 25. Thanks to each of you who respond to my urgent requests and give your > input on these crucial issues. > > 26. It has been 12 years battling this menace. I wish I dint have to face > a meetingwhere I am told that my people are cheating. I further wish > that none of my people suffer because of bad scribes. > > Kanchan > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > [email protected] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org > .in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking > of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its > veracity; > > 2. 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