Dear sir I have been following this thread for the past few days . Being a medical doctor by training , i feel i should weigh in here and clarify some things you are saying here .
Firstly , mainstream medical scientists as you call them are not a vile community that is looking out for personal commercial interests . Those in research and in clinical practice rarely overlap .anyhow , no one whether as a person or a community is specifically interested in benefiting from another human being s suffering or disability . As and when avenues of treatment / paliation have come up they have been brought into clinical practice after rigorous examinations by the scientific method . The sole aim for such an exercise is to ensure replicability of results . It a little bit more complicated than saying a pre and post comparison . There needs to be an understanding of why anything works , for whom it works , for those it did not work for why did not , what are the best parameters and qualifying situations , whether there are any ill effects for those healthy , any ill effects for those in need of the intervention , is there a way to predict who would benefit and who would not , and many other things . This is possible when the intervention is rooted in some physiological , pharmacological , biochemical basis . In the context of what is being discussed here , there is no physiological or any other scientific basis . The Midbrain is actually a part of the brain that controls a lot of vital functions such as respiration , body temperature etc amongst others . Some nerve fibers from the processing centres for vision do pass through this area . These also control some basic pursuit movements of the eye . Apart from this there also other cranial nerves that mediate taste , touch , and the movements of face and neck muscles . However in the MIDBRAIN activation programs that are being discussed here , the midbrain referred to i s something in between the right and the left !! The only thing between the right and left hemispheres of the Brain is the connection system called the corpus callosum . There is no separate right and left Brain as is commonly referred to in these writings ! All right handed individuals are left dominant - a terminology used to refer to the fact that these people have their speech areas in the left hemispheres . Those left handed are more than 90% left dominant while a few are right dominant . This just implies that certain functions are subserved by certain areas . . Being right brained and left brained is something not based in neuroscience . Then where would the midbrain be is what should be asked ! If the intervention works to reduce the impairment , i am happy as any of you would be but i would still want to know how it does . Unlike common belief , ill effects also plague any intervention - whether psychological , or any activation whatsoever . It is just that they are not recognised or identified . It would only be possible to identify such things in controlled studies . But alas , there is little scope for that to happen . An y such intervention when conducted by persons with specific training weds to weed out subjectiity minimise chance results and identify placebo effects . Such a controlled situation is rarely the case . Anyhow this is all i wanted to say and i hope it helped . With best regards Sharad > On 30-Nov-2018, at 4:20 PM, P. Subramani <subramani6...@gmail.com> wrote: > > obviously mainstream medical scientists will never ever verify and certify > the potents of alternate medicines/treatments as the medical scientists will > loss their business. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ved" <vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com> > To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Sent: 30 November, 2018 7:04 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind? > > >> Riaiki is not considered scientific. It is just a matter of faith. >> Healing by touch is practised by many riaiki Masters. However, it is not >> verified by any medical scientists or doctors. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf >> Of Sathiyaprakash Ramdoss >> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 12:55 PM >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning >> the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Subject: Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind? >> >> Friends, >> >> You may want to read this following overview about Reiki and midbrain >> activation from this following link: >> >> http://reikimasterpuran.blogspot.com/p/mid-brain-activation-course.html >> >> >> Thank You. >> >> Sathiya >> >> >>> On 11/29/18, Anshul Kapoor (अंशुल कपूर) <anshul.kap...@gail.co.in> wrote: >>> I enquired about this technique about 4-5 years back from a person >>> teaching the same in Gujarat. He was making sighted children read >>> books with their eyes closed. On enquiring he told me that it is not >>> possible for adults as people who develop logic cannot get benefit >>> from this technique. I mailed the same on access India at that time >>> also. Only children who haven't developed logical thinking can >>> successfully practice this technique. The person from Gujarat told me >>> that it is my business and I will benefit from it but adults cannot >>> do this at all. My father told me about this on viewing a TV channel and I >>> searched for his contact no. from the net. >>> >>> With regards >>> >>> Anshul Kapoor >>> Cell- 9958890358 >>> >>> "In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right >>> thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you >>> can do is nothing." >>> Theodore Roosevelt >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf Of Kriya Jain >>> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 11:25 AM >>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind? >>> >>> Why not someone just tries it? anyways it's free. Having some mind >>> exercises and reiki won't harm anyone if not any good, right? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Kanchan >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 10:28 AM Asudani, Rajesh >>> <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, it is, and so I have changed it. >>>> >>>> As I have said earlier, it appears that information is conveyed via >>>> touch and other senses, information which appears primarily to be visual. >>>> >>>> I have heard of it in children below 15, and they were not willing to >>>> try it for me, i.e. totally blind person a little upwards of forty. >>>> >>>> Now, if somebody has tried for blind children and is willing to try >>>> it out in blind adults, let us not scoff at the attempts. >>>> Yes, exaggerated claims like blind can see and associating prominent >>>> scientists unnecessarily should be avoided. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>>> Behalf Of George Abraham >>>> Sent: 30 November 2018 08:50 >>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>>> concerning the disabled.' <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired can see now! >>>> >>>> Is there a problem with the subject line. Is it a little misleading? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>>> Behalf Of shobhan singh >>>> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 12:46 AM >>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>>> concerning the disabled. >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired can see now! >>>> >>>> Dear list members, >>>> First of all, I would like to make clear that I am dr. Shobhan Singh >>>> working as an Assistant Professor at Zakir Husain Delhi College in >>>> university of Delhi and I am also a visually impaired. I have not >>>> mentioned or claimed in any of my mail that I have specialization in >>>> Science of Mind or therapy which would be use to cure blindness >>>> during this 7 days’ camp. >>>> I >>>> am just an organizer and participant of the camp. >>>> Mr. Jitendra an IIT passed out and has worked as software Engeneer in >>>> Japan for 10 years belongs to Haryana State, is specialised in >>>> Science of Mind from Japan. Jitendra resigned from his job and after >>>> returning from Japan to India, he began his social service based on >>>> his own observations and inferences from Science of Mind and decided to >>>> cure blindness. >>>> As far as technique of the treatment is concern, it involves 4 steps: >>>> 1. Breathing excercises, >>>> 2. Pranic heeling, >>>> 3. Reki therapy and >>>> 4. Few certain brain exercises. >>>> Persons with visual impairment of any type and age group can be cured >>>> with these techniques however, it effectively and quickly works on >>>> below 40 years old people. >>>> But it does not mean or claim that these techniques would change >>>> one’s physical and medical conditions, it would just active sense of >>>> sight or seeing or to say its mid-brain activation. >>>> As far as medical certificate is concern, is not essential.Sent from >>>> my Iphone >>>> >>>> > On 29-Nov-2018, at 8:48 PM, bhawani shankar verma >>>> > <bsvermad...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > I still can not understand that why this discussion is going in >>>> > this >>>> group. >>>> > it means that it is too easy to make foolish inteligent people. >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, 29 Nov 2018, 7:57 p.m. Austin Pinto >>>> > <austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> as shobhan singh says he will clear our doubts when free i have >>>> >> some questions which will be helpful for us. >>>> >> 1. if you carefully see the video the children are asked to touch >>>> >> shapes drawn on paper and find out size, color etc. >>>> >> why is this are the shapes drawn using some type of tactile or >>>> something? >>>> >> how can some1 find out color of shapes by touch. >>>> >> 2. who can benefit from this camp. >>>> >> can people with optic nerve damage attend? >>>> >> what are the age groups that can attend cause in this video we >>>> >> only see small children. >>>> >> please clarify. >>>> >> >>>> >>> On 11/29/18, sazid shaik <ashwaqahmed....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>> intresting, >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> On 11/29/18, shobhan singh <shobhan19...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> As soon as I will be free by this evening I will try to Clare >>>> >>>> all the doubts and confusions. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my Iphone >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 29-Nov-2018, at 1:47 PM, Ved <vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Why videos. Give your address and I am coming to attend the >>>> >>>>> camp in >>>> >> order >>>> >>>>> to see myself. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>>>> From: AccessIndia >>>> >>>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] >>>> >>>>> On Behalf Of shobhan singh >>>> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:25 PM >>>> >>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>>> >>>>> concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired can see now! >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Yes all of them are able to see. Soon I will send videos by >>>> >>>>> this >>>> >> evening >>>> >>>>> of those people. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Sent from my Iphone >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>>> On 28-Nov-2018, at 12:14 PM, bhawani shankar verma >>>> >>>>>> <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> are they able to see now? those 400 blind children? >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: shobhan singh >>>> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:11 PM >>>> >>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and >>>> >>>>>> issues concerning the disabled. >>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired can see now! >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> I'll send you the videos of the sessions conducted in Haryana, >>>> >>>>>> Ludhiyana and Calcutta Blind schools where about 400 children >>>> >>>>>> and adults have been treated successfully. It is completely >>>> >>>>>> based on certain brain exercises without any medication. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> On 11/28/18, shanka...@tech-accessibility.in >>>> >>>>>> <shanka...@tech-accessibility.in> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> Hi there, >>>> >>>>>>> As for as my concern, no 1 is debating on the subject, I feel >>>> >>>>>>> that, the viewers need the logic on the training. >>>> >>>>>>> So, if you could share the more details on the training or >>>> >>>>>>> the subject like, how it works and so on, people might get >>>> >>>>>>> convince and attend the training more and more. >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>>>>>> From: AccessIndia <accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in> On >>>> >>>>>>> Behalf Of shobhan singh >>>> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 11:23 AM >>>> >>>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and >>>> >>>>>>> issues concerning the disabled. >>>> >>>>>>> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired can see now! >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Hi there, >>>> >>>>>>> Its not matter of debate! Its matter of larger interest of >>>> >>>>>>> the persons with visual impairment. Its an individual effort >>>> >>>>>>> to conduct the session in different parts of India and >>>> >>>>>>> abroad. No one is forced >>>> >> to >>>> >>>>>>> join the training. >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my Iphone >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> On 28-Nov-2018, at 11:04 AM, manohar vaswani >>>> >>>>>>>> <vaswan...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> if visually impaired can see, then they will not be visually >>>> >> impaired! >>>> >>>>>>>> and as far as I know, Einstein was not a neurologist >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> On 11/27/18, Maruti Paramwad <mparam...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>>> How???? How can its possible? 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