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Re: The Nano Inspiration (Shadab Husain) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:45:49 +0530 > From: "harish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [AI] Blind abused: BBC > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi all > > This news item is very disturbing. If such things takes place in such > large numbers in the developed world, one can just wonder what would be > the scale of such abuses taking places in developing world. > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/intouch/?focuswin > > In Touch: News for Blind People > > BBC Radio 4 > > News, views and information for people who are blind or visually impaired. > Presented by Peter White every Tuesday evening from 20:40. > > Subscribe to this podcast > > Feed URL > > http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/intouch/rss.xml > > Please note this is a podcast and you can download the audio programme by > subscribing the feed to RSS readers like reader.google.com > Harish. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:50:19 +0530 > From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Jaws 8 does not support adobe 8, though > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Viraj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:12 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding > > >> Jaws supports Adobe Acrobat Reader version 7 and above. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Samuel Rodrigues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:36 AM >> Subject: [AI] Regarding >> >> >>> Friends, >>> Which of the version of adoby pdf supports jaws? >>> I am trying to open a file but it does not work. >>> Thank you >>> Samuel. >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:00:56 +0530 > From: "Sanjay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding memory size > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > This will not work in most cases. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "pushkar raj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:14 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding memory size > > >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ravi Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:05 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding memory size >> >> >>> Hai folks, one of the suggestions was to zip and send the file. >>> >>> I find a problem with it as well. Then what is the problem? >>> the problem with it is that gmail seems to pick up the fact that the >>> file has been zipped and warns you saying that there is a potentially >>> harmful file that is of the file extention ".exe". >>> >>> the best sollution I can think of is to both zip and change the file >>> extention while sending a .exe file type as an attachment. >>> >>> hoping that this sollution will help, >>> thanks >>> regards >>> Ravi Paul >>> >>> On 1/8/08, Samuel Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> Ithink that according to my oppinion it is better to compress the file >>>> to >>>> zip or rar format rather than converting to other format and it reduces >>>> the >>>> weight of the file. >>>> Just instal winzip or winrar and of course it is used very much on the >>>> websites. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "FARHAN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:44 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding memory size >>>> >>>> >>>> But i don't like to use g mail for the atachments,because g mail >>>> doesn't >>>> send .exe files,and etc. you can use yahoo,or either hotmail for the e >>>> mails. otherwise,you can send your files from the service provider >>>> which >>>> they do not have their e mail service,but you can uplode your file on >>>> their >>>> site,and they will give you a link which will work to accessing your >>>> file. >>>> and you can download your uploded file from there. >>>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>> From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> >>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:38 AM >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding memory size >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>>G mail recipients can send the attachments upto 20.0 MB >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>> From: "Samuel Rodrigues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:42 PM >>>> >>>> Subject: [AI] Regarding memory size >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Dear list, >>>> >>>>> Do you know how much MB can we send as attachments, can we send a >>>> >>>>> video >>>> >>>>> file about 400 MB or How much is the limit, could you please tell >>>> >>>>> me. >>>> >>>>> With wishes for new year. >>>> >>>>> Samuel. >>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>> >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>> >>>>> changes, >>>> >>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>> >>>> changes, >>>> >>>> please visit the list home page at >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>> >>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>>> >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>>> >>> Tired of spam? 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Adobe (Adobe Systems Incorporated) is a software company, > whereas the PDF reader (known as Adobe Acrobat Reader or simply Adobe > Reader > or even Adobe in casual discourse) is one of its products. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Samuel Rodrigues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 4:30 PM > Subject: [AI] Acrobat > > >> Dear friends, >> could you tell me the difference between adobe reader and acrobat reader? >> Samuel >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:48:16 +0530 > From: "Pradeep banakar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [AI] The Nano Inspiration > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > The Nano Inspiration > > I am inspired by the story of the Nano. Beyond its cute look or frugal > engineering-driven price tag, I find it remarkable how Team Tata pulled it > off in > just four years. > > I've watched and read the rumblings - on congestion, traffic, the > environment. Confession: I own a car. This makes it hard for me to > criticise the Nano: > people-in-glass-houses constraint. There is an Indian equivalent of > this - the "unreserved compartment syndrome". All those inside the > compartment do > everything to keep outsiders at bay; but once someone gets in - bravely > beating the odds - he becomes an insider, repeating the same behaviour, so > nothing > changes. We need to understand the sentiments of the outsiders - how many > people who don't own cars criticise the Nano on the grounds of traffic > congestion > and environmental concerns. > > But the larger point is the inspirational lamp that the Nano story lights. > There are hundreds of challenges in India where the lessons of the Nano > can > be applied - design innovation, scale efficiency, vendor networking and so > on. I want to talk about three illustrative examples. > > Healthcare > > Dr Devi Shetty, one of the country's leading heart surgeons is also > focused on bringing affordable health services to the poor. He talked of > the need for > innovation and scale in healthcare, based on our unique challenges in > India. > > Using the example of a CT scan, which costs Rs 5,000 - 10,000 per patient, > he said, "We have a few hundred CT scan machines in India, each doing 3-4 > scans > a day, although the capacity is over 100/day. These machines are like > planes that earn money only when they fly. We need to increase the flow > of patients > through these centres. But this is related to other issues like hospital > bed capacity and inpatient/outpatient ratios. Today, most hospitals make > their > money from inpatients. We need to reverse this relationship where > thousands of outpatients who each pay a few hundred rupees for tests can > subsidize the > operating costs of the hospital." > > Imagine if we could get a CT scan cost down to Rs 500, offer a heart > surgery for a few thousand rupees or a gall bladder surgery for under a > thousand. > This requires a fundamental redesign of all the parts of the healthcare > delivery system - from re-engineering individual components like the CT > scan, to > embedding these into scaled health "cities" that can get a critical mass > of 10,000 outpatients a day. > > Housing > > In urban India alone, we need to build over 26 million homes to meet > projected demand until 2012, and over 95% of this is for the poor. If we > ignore government > subsidised programmes, and focus on market-driven solutions, we need to > build homes with an all-in cost of Rs 2 - Rs 2.5 lakhs for land and > building, so > that the EMI is around Rs 2,500. Given current land costs and fsi/far > ratios in urban India, this translates to a construction cost of about Rs > 300- 400 > per square foot for a 400 sft dwelling. Imagine the kind of demand that > can open up if we can change the engineering specifications, reduce the > cost-per-unit > by scale economies, improve the construction process, and deliver a > product that might not have marble floors, but doesn't compromise on > quality. > > Public transport > > The Design Museum of London ( > www.designmuseum.org) > says this about the famous London double-decker bus, "Developed over nine > years from 1947 to 1956 by a team led by industrial designer Douglas > Scott, the > Routemaster was designed with mass-production in mind. By constructing a > bus from the maximum number of interchangeable parts, they cut the cost > not only > of the initial tooling and manufacturing, but of repairs and maintenance > too. They also equipped it with the latest automotive engineering > innovations > such as power steering, an automatic gearbox, hydraulic brakes, > independent springs and heating controls." > > I think of the public bus system in our cities. If the experience is bad > for passengers, it's worse for the bus drivers, having to navigate these > Noah's > arks through the narrow Indian streets. We need buses designed for Indian > conditions: our roads, our traffic, our people. With environmental > challenges > thrown in, we are looking at a fundamental redesign of the Indian bus. > Can we create an icon like the London Routemaster? > > These challenges - and the hundreds more that India faces - would normally > result in little more than wishful thinking or simplistic dead-end pilot > projects. > The Nano story inspires us to say, "Why not?" with a clear-headed > acknowledgement of the complexities. To me, this itself is worth the > applause it is > receiving. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:26:56 +0530 > From: "Shadab Husain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [AI] The Nano Inspiration > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Dear Pradeep - Thank you for sending this email to me. I really am a > tree-hugger and I passionately love my mother earth, so I will urge > you to see the deceit behind the Nano by clicking > > http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=40805 > Outrageously, our media has done a hatchet job. Please save our > mother earth from these industrialists. > > I can do anything to save my beloved earth! And you? > > Shadab Husain > http://shdb101.blogspot.com/ > > The purpose of developing things should be to develop man not things > > > On 1/18/08, Pradeep banakar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> The Nano Inspiration >> >> I am inspired by the story of the Nano. Beyond its cute look or frugal >> engineering-driven price tag, I find it remarkable how Team Tata pulled >> it >> off in >> just four years. >> >> I've watched and read the rumblings - on congestion, traffic, the >> environment. Confession: I own a car. This makes it hard for me to >> criticise the Nano: >> people-in-glass-houses constraint. There is an Indian equivalent of >> this - >> the "unreserved compartment syndrome". All those inside the compartment >> do >> everything to keep outsiders at bay; but once someone gets in - bravely >> beating the odds - he becomes an insider, repeating the same behaviour, >> so >> nothing >> changes. We need to understand the sentiments of the outsiders - how >> many >> people who don't own cars criticise the Nano on the grounds of traffic >> congestion >> and environmental concerns. >> >> But the larger point is the inspirational lamp that the Nano story >> lights. >> There are hundreds of challenges in India where the lessons of the Nano >> can >> be applied - design innovation, scale efficiency, vendor networking and >> so >> on. I want to talk about three illustrative examples. >> >> Healthcare >> >> Dr Devi Shetty, one of the country's leading heart surgeons is also >> focused >> on bringing affordable health services to the poor. He talked of the >> need >> for >> innovation and scale in healthcare, based on our unique challenges in >> India. >> >> Using the example of a CT scan, which costs Rs 5,000 - 10,000 per >> patient, >> he said, "We have a few hundred CT scan machines in India, each doing 3-4 >> scans >> a day, although the capacity is over 100/day. These machines are like >> planes that earn money only when they fly. We need to increase the flow >> of >> patients >> through these centres. But this is related to other issues like hospital >> bed capacity and inpatient/outpatient ratios. Today, most hospitals make >> their >> money from inpatients. We need to reverse this relationship where >> thousands >> of outpatients who each pay a few hundred rupees for tests can subsidize >> the >> operating costs of the hospital." >> >> Imagine if we could get a CT scan cost down to Rs 500, offer a heart >> surgery >> for a few thousand rupees or a gall bladder surgery for under a thousand. >> This requires a fundamental redesign of all the parts of the healthcare >> delivery system - from re-engineering individual components like the CT >> scan, to >> embedding these into scaled health "cities" that can get a critical mass >> of >> 10,000 outpatients a day. >> >> Housing >> >> In urban India alone, we need to build over 26 million homes to meet >> projected demand until 2012, and over 95% of this is for the poor. If >> we >> ignore government >> subsidised programmes, and focus on market-driven solutions, we need to >> build homes with an all-in cost of Rs 2 - Rs 2.5 lakhs for land and >> building, so >> that the EMI is around Rs 2,500. Given current land costs and fsi/far >> ratios in urban India, this translates to a construction cost of about Rs >> 300- 400 >> per square foot for a 400 sft dwelling. Imagine the kind of demand that >> can >> open up if we can change the engineering specifications, reduce the >> cost-per-unit >> by scale economies, improve the construction process, and deliver a >> product >> that might not have marble floors, but doesn't compromise on quality. >> >> Public transport >> >> The Design Museum of London ( >> www.designmuseum.org) >> says this about the famous London double-decker bus, "Developed over nine >> years from 1947 to 1956 by a team led by industrial designer Douglas >> Scott, >> the >> Routemaster was designed with mass-production in mind. By constructing a >> bus >> from the maximum number of interchangeable parts, they cut the cost not >> only >> of the initial tooling and manufacturing, but of repairs and maintenance >> too. They also equipped it with the latest automotive engineering >> innovations >> such as power steering, an automatic gearbox, hydraulic brakes, >> independent >> springs and heating controls." >> >> I think of the public bus system in our cities. If the experience is bad >> for passengers, it's worse for the bus drivers, having to navigate these >> Noah's >> arks through the narrow Indian streets. We need buses designed for >> Indian >> conditions: our roads, our traffic, our people. With environmental >> challenges >> thrown in, we are looking at a fundamental redesign of the Indian bus. >> Can >> we create an icon like the London Routemaster? >> >> These challenges - and the hundreds more that India faces - would >> normally >> result in little more than wishful thinking or simplistic dead-end pilot >> projects. >> The Nano story inspires us to say, "Why not?" with a clear-headed >> acknowledgement of the complexities. To me, this itself is worth the >> applause it is >> receiving. >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with >> the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > AccessIndia mailing list > [email protected] > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > End of AccessIndia Digest, Vol 21, Issue 53 > ******************************************* > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 1/18/2008 > 7:32 PM > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.yahoo.com To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. 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