Strict invigilation is needed in IBPS PO, IBPS clerk and RBI assistance exams. I do not have much experience of other exams like Railway and SSC, RRB so won't comment on that. There are few prominent Visually Impaired people justifying cheating. Their opinion is that it is ok to use scribe writing answers for VI candidates since Maths is not taught in special schools. I know some of them personally. There are ways to learn Maths using technology, Braille and tailor frame. Maths need daily practice.
On 8/16/22, 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> wrote: > That’s why all most exams are strictly followed with regards to scribes. > Video recording is being made to see how the candidate dictates to the > scribe the answers and his lip movements. > For RRB exam for many Vi candidates two invigilators were deputed to oversee > the conduct of the exam. > If this continues them the credibility would be in question.. > > DR. PAUL MUDDHA > DIVISIONAL MANAGER > Marketing & Public Relations Wing > Head Office Annex ground Floor > 2nd Cross, Gandhi Nagar Bangalore – 560009 > PH NO :080 22207594 > > > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> On > Behalf Of RAUSHAN KUMAR > Sent: 14 August 2022 22:37 > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] Re: From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is > Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'? > > CAUTION: This email is originated from outside Canara Bank. Do not click any > links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know that the > content is safe. > Dear all > If these kinds of malpractices are happening, then more work is required at > the policy level. > The whole purpose of a scribe is to enable the candidate, but not to use it > as a means to cheat. It also discourages those who are working hard, It > increases the cutoff of the exam, which makes deserving candidates give up > and lose hope. > > In the long term, the people who are going through illegal means will become > a huge obstruction in creating an inclusive environment. > > One of the solutions I can think of will be the audio and video recording of > the whole exam process and its verification by competent authorities and > match what has been written by the scribe and spoken by the candidate. > > It will be better if more people will come forward and suggest their > opinion/solutions. Since this is a large problem and its quick fixation is > needed as soon as possible. > > > With regards > Raushan Kumar > > Thank you > > > > > On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 8:50 PM anirudh rao > <personalanir...@gmail.com<mailto:personalanir...@gmail.com>> wrote: > why not install a screen readers in the place of examinations and let > ourselves to write the exam? > I remember, when I had appeared for a JNU entrance exam, there was an > option to write the exam with computer but, on the inquiry, in the > spot of the examination, the authorities told that there are no such > provisions/fecilities. > fortunately, my friends had warned me and had provided me with a scribe. > otherwise, I had to come back without writing the exam. > however, my results was also in confusion and that is another story > for another day. > > On 8/14/22, Minar Singh <singhmi...@gmail.com<mailto:singhmi...@gmail.com>> > wrote: >> This NEWS has been published in 7 NEWS papers in English and Hindi. >> Hope everyone will larn a good lesson. Those who have acquired jobs by >> misuse of scribe facility should be identified and suspended. >> >> On 8/14/22, Minar Singh >> <singhmi...@gmail.com<mailto:singhmi...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe >>> Service' Turning Into 'Business'? >>> New Delhi, India >>> Scribes charge from Rs 2,000 to rs 5 lakh for exam (Representational >>> Image) >>> Scribes charge from Rs 2,000 to rs 5 lakh for exam (Representational >>> Image) >>> Lack of scribes for candidates with visual impairment has led to a >>> rampant illegal ‘scribe business’ across the country, activists demand >>> national scribe banks. >>> Help offered to visually impaired students in form of scribes is >>> turning into a business, where on one hand deserving students find it >>> difficult to get a scribe, on the other hand, many ‘coaching >>> institutes’ offer scribes as ‘proxy’ candidates to solve papers on >>> behalf of students in exchange for lakhs of rupees. Depending on the >>> exams, several visually impaired candidates have reportedly been asked >>> anywhere from Rs 1 lakh to 5 lakh from scribes. >>> The availability of scribes in exchange for a large amount of money >>> has made seeking payments in return for helping in exams an unsaid >>> norm. This puts candidates, especially those from low-income >>> backgrounds at a disadvantage. >>> In 2021, a 31-year-old person with visual impairment, Satvir Jogi, had >>> to miss his exam as he failed to find a scribe despite multiple >>> attempts. For Jogi, who has been applying for several government exams >>> in the last few years, arranging a scribe has always been a challenge. >>> “Due to a paucity of reading material for visually impaired candidates >>> — online and in physical form — even the preparation for an exam is >>> more difficult when compared to visually-abled candidates. To top it >>> off, we have the biggest challenge of finding scribes. How are these >>> exams fair and equal for us?” says Jogi. >>> He adds, “I have given from Rs 1,000 to Rs 2,000 on multiple occasions >>> to scribes to write my paper. If a visually impaired candidate is >>> lucky, then they sometimes get a volunteer scribe on time, otherwise, >>> scribes demand money as per their wish for appearing for exams.” >>> SCRIBES ALSO BEING USED AS PROXY CANDIDATES >>> Lack of resources and limited vacancies for the visually impaired has >>> made many take the illegal route as well. SK Singh, a rights activist >>> for people with visual impairment and secretary of the National >>> Association for the Blind, claimed that the scribe business is an open >>> secret now. It stems from a lack of scribe resources and other >>> challenges, including not enough material to prepare for exams and >>> fewer job vacancies for people with visual impairment. >>> They demand anywhere from Rs 2,000 to just appear for the exam to Rs 5 >>> lakh to clear it. With the demand for more money, scribes also give >>> services to prepare on the behalf of the candidate and appear for the >>> exam, alleged SK Singh, a rights activist for people with visual >>> impairment and secretary of the National Association for the Blind. >>> “Unemployment rates are at an all-time high and everyone wants to >>> secure a job. Several scribes have found this opportunity to make >>> money out of it. They demand anywhere from Rs 2,000 to just appear for >>> the exam to Rs 5 lakh to clear it. With the demand for more money, >>> scribes also give services to prepare on the behalf of the candidate >>> and appear for the exam.” >>> ‘WITH OUR SCRIBES DON’T WORRY ABOUT PASSING EXAM’ >>> To get to know some of the ‘proxy scribes’, News18 tried to contact a >>> few of them. One such person, who runs a coaching center in Mumbai, >>> told News18.com, “We have an academy. You only have to give us the >>> syllabus and make us meet the candidate. We are quite experienced at >>> it, so you don’t have to worry about passing the exam.” >>> He said, from teachers to students his academy has scribes candidates >>> of all ages and for various exams. >>> Speaking about the fee charged for being the scribe, he said it >>> depends on the exam. “While the fee is less for the non-technical >>> exams, the fee will be more for technical exams. But don’t worry about >>> the fee, we have an installment system also. A candidate can pay even >>> after they get a job,” he said. >>> ‘NO COMPLAINTS RECEIVED OF SCRIBE BUSINESS’ >>> The authorities, however, claim to not be aware of any ‘scribe >>> business’ going on in exams. >>> When News18 contacted the Department of Empowerment of Persons with >>> Disabilities, which is under the Ministry of Social Justice & >>> Empowerment, an official, on condition of anonymity, said, “Till now >>> we have not received any complaints of ‘scribe business’." >>> “In the future, however, if we get any such complaints we will inquire >>> about it. Meanwhile, if there are reports of policy being misused, >>> then the state government can inquire into it.” >>> The official added, “The policy is made for the betterment of the >>> candidates, but there are people who might take advantage of the >>> loophole, but there are bodies to look into it.” >>> LACK OF CONSENSUS AMONG AUTHORITIES OVER QUALIFICATION, AVAILABILITY OF >>> SCRIBE >>> The authorities have allegedly also failed to come to a consensus >>> about implementing guidelines for availing of scribe facilities. While >>> the guidelines issued by the Ministry of Social Justice and Employment >>> published the Guidelines for Persons with Benchmark Disabilities in >>> August 2018 give candidates the option to either bring their own >>> scribes or request one from the exam-conducting body, in many cases >>> authorities deny candidates to bring their own scribe. >>> In the recently held TS TET exam, many candidates were uncertain till >>> hours before exams whether or not they will get a scribe. Candidates >>> from different districts of Telangana said that their admit cards >>> mentioned that candidates with 40 per cent disability can avail >>> scribes, however, there was no mention if they will be provided with a >>> scribe by the exam conducting body or if the students can get their >>> own scribe for the exam. The confusion escalated among the candidates >>> when the TSTET helpdesk set up in different districts of the State >>> provided mixed information to the candidates. >>> News18 tried to call some of the district helpdesk numbers to verify >>> the claims. An operator from the Hyderabad helpdesk said that >>> candidates will have to go to the exam centre a day before the exams >>> to inform the administration that they require a scribe and then they >>> will be allocated a scribe. Meanwhile, the Khammam helpdesk said the >>> candidates can get their scribes but they have to be only Class 9 >>> qualified. However, Hyderabad’s helpdesk claimed that candidates >>> cannot get their scribe and only the exam-conducting body (Department >>> of School Education) will provide a scribe to candidates with >>> disabilities. >>> The TET convenor Radha Reddy denied the claims of confusion among the >>> candidates. She told New18, “There should be no confusion among the >>> candidates as these exams happen every year and candidates should know >>> that students cannot get their own scribes. Those who fit the >>> disability criteria will be provided with a scribe at the exam >>> center." >>> While guidelines by Ministry clearly state that candidates have option >>> of bringing own scribe to seeking one from exam conducting bodies, >>> rules often change at state-level. >>> On informing the qualifications of scribes TSTET convenor said that >>> scribes will only be class 9 pass and inter-pass. The guidelines >>> issued by Ministry, however, suggest that scribes should not be more >>> than the minimum qualification criteria of the examination. However, >>> the qualification of the scribe/reader should always be matric or >>> above. >>> Similar incidents of confusion over the scribes’ availability and >>> qualification are reported in multiple educational and recruitment >>> exams. >>> DEMAND FOR A NATIONAL, STATE SCRIBE POOL >>> Activists have been demanding the government create scribe banks so >>> that any examinee can readily avail of certified scribes on a >>> voluntary basis. Under a watch, this can also put a stop to proxy >>> candidate business. >>> Activists cite the lack of Central or State-regulated scribe pools, >>> which can be accessed by anyone, to the burgeoning illegal scribe >>> business. To add to their woes, guidelines related to scribes are >>> unclear across the country. >>> SK Singh, says, “The government had come up with the qualification >>> guidelines to curb exam malpractices, but that is only working against >>> students. There can be multiple ways to curb malpractices. Why is the >>> onus not on the invigilators to check if the candidate is using the >>> help of their scribe or not? Putting a cap on the scribe’s >>> qualification curbs visually impaired and other candidates with >>> disabilities to appear for exams.” >>> The General Secretary of the National Platform for the Rights of the >>> Disabled, Muralidharan, said that these norms would only make it more >>> difficult for the candidates to find a scribe. He said, “If a national >>> and state scribe bank will be available, this will automatically curb >>> such practices.” >>> Founder of the All India Conference of the Blind, J L Paul, said, >>> “Under Rights of Persons with Disabilities Act, 2016, all visually >>> impaired people have the right to education and the government should >>> make sure that they get it. There are no proper efforts made by the >>> government to make sure that all visually impaired students get a >>> scribe. For this, a national and a state scribe bank will be very >>> beneficial.” >>> Calling the scribe qualification law draconian, another visually >>> impaired student Animesh, who has done his MA in International >>> Relations from Christ University Bangalore, said, “The government has >>> these rules to avoid malpractice but at the same time our >>> infrastructure is not that well developed. So first the government >>> should develop a network and then come up with such guidelines. Like >>> Ola and Uber, there should be online scribe pool apps through which we >>> can check the scribe’s qualifications and practise with them.” >>> This story is produced as part of the Laadli Media Fellowship 2022 >>> https://www.news18.com/news/education-career/form-charging-lakhs-to-offering-proxy-candidates-is-exam-scribe-service-turning-into-business-5624815.html >>> >>> -- >>> What’s most important is to put the person first, the disability >>> second Because we all are people first. >>> >> >> >> -- >> What’s most important is to put the person first, the disability >> second Because we all are people first. >> >> -- >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the >> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. 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