Hi everyone, I am Nirmita from Bangalore. My organisation (CIS) is planning to get me a laptop and had asked me for preferences for both comp brand as well as OS. I generally surfed the net and came up with HP DV9734TX WITH INTEL CORE 2 DUO, since HP is one I haven't tried before. But everyone else is getting Lenovo. While I have a choice, I just wanted to get inputs before we actually go ahead and buy the machines. Could anyone who has used either of these machines or knows about them give me some feedback on them? For instance how is the key pad and how are the speakers etc? And could you also suggest a really good brand to go in for? Budget is within 80k. Looking forward to your response, cheers, Nirmita.
----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 1:00 PM Subject: AccessIndia Digest, Vol 28, Issue 104 > Send AccessIndia mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AccessIndia digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. volunteers required (payal kapoor) > 2. Re: computer training center in kolkata (manoj gupta) > 3. Re: AboutInstalling Ultimate Voice Recorderin Nokia n 72 (firoz) > 4. Re: AboutInstalling Ultimate Voice Recorderin Nokia n 72 > (Amit Bhatt) > 5. Re: AccessIndia Digest, Vol 28, Issue 103 please help me how > to crack jaws and installzation (lokesh ) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:47:19 -0700 > From: "payal kapoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [AI] volunteers required > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Volunteers for the Blind Found > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > dear all > > i am pasting a request for volunteers in hyderabad, vishakapatanam, and > tirupati by samrita trust, an organisation working towards providing audio > study material to vi students in andhra pradesh. the managing trustee air > vice marshal sastry has in his mail outlined his requirement. it would be > of great help if we could garner the required support to enable this work > to gain momentum and a larger audience be addressed. you can either get in > touch with me at this e mail id or contact a v m sastry directly at- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > thanks, in anticipation.. > > From: > sastry nori > To: > Volunteers for the Blind Found > Cc: > payal kapoor > ; > 'Payal Kapoor' > ; > Harish Kotian > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 4:32 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: Volunteers in Hyderabad > Dear Payal, > I am a small man doing small work. So my requirement of volunteers is > small. I give below scope of work for volunteers and numbers required. > Hyderabad --SIX > Two to install sftware in PCs of local colleges and train the teachers > there, so they can train VI students. 10 colleges in total. I can give > locations > if you like.Software will be given by me on CDs.One is screen reader SAFA > and another Multi ligual Editor.Same can follow up with colleges on use of > audio > books and CD players given to them. > Four for reading audio books at their homes and give me recorded data. One > needs a PC or laptop and I will give software to load for recording. > One.At my home to help me with copying CDs, typing letters and such work. > In addition visit Govt offices to progress my cases with them. > Tirupathi-One/Two Same job as for two in Hyderabad with colleges. Four TTD > colleges are there with 200 VI students. > Visakhapatnam- Same as Tirupathi. Four colleges with 30 students. > If you can find some for these tasks, it is great progress for Samrita > Trust.They can get in touch with me by email till 30 Sep 08 and in person > later. > Thank you for your help. > Sastry > Samrita Trust > > > Warm Regards > > Payal Kapoor > > The Residence, Hyderabad > > Tel # : +91 40 27670714 > > Cell : +91 94909 39739 > > Fax # : +91 40 66336650 > > E mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Web: > www.residences.co.in > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:29:26 +0800 > From: "manoj gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [AI] computer training center in kolkata > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thanks a lot for this comprehensive and valuable information. > Regards, > Manoj > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Amiyo Biswas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:39 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] computer training center in kolkata > > >> Hello, >> >> Transport takes a lot of time in Kolkata. The organisation at Majherhat >> in >> South Kolkata Ashish has mentioned is a good one. The fellow may also try >> NIP at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or he may contact Debajyoti Roy over cellphone > on >> 9831167503. It is at Bangur Avenue in the eastern Kolkata. >> >> Best regards, >> Amiyo. >> Cell: +91-9433464329 >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ashish Jha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:48 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] computer training center in kolkata >> >> >> > Hi Manoj, >> > >> > There are some of the centres in Kolkata where he / she could go ahead >> > with the Computer Training.. >> > Here I am providing information for one of such Centre.. >> > 1. Welfare Society For The Blind >> > Phone Number: 033 2478 1121 >> > Principal : Jharna Sur >> > For any more info from me, Pls feel free to drop a mail at the below > ID.. >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >> > >> > --- On Tue, 26/8/08, manoj gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > From: manoj gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Subject: [AI] computer training center in kolkata >> > To: [email protected] >> > Date: Tuesday, 26 August, 2008, 7:54 AM >> > >> > Friends, >> > A class 12th recently blind student alongwith his family has shifted > in >> > Kolkata last month wants to have computer training. Can any one pls >> > provide all >> > details about such center in Kolkata. >> > Thanks and regards, >> > Manoj >> > Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >> > http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >> > Registration is now open! >> > >> > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > with >> > the subject unsubscribe. >> > >> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> > please >> > visit the list home page at >> > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > >> > >> > >> > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on >> > http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/ >> > Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >> > http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >> > Registration is now open! >> > >> > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > with the subject unsubscribe. >> > >> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> > please visit the list home page at >> > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: > http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >> Registration is now open! >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at >> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:35:13 +0530 > From: "firoz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [AI] AboutInstalling Ultimate Voice Recorderin Nokia n 72 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > i am using application since last two years > > i have not encounter any problem so far > > it works fantastic for me > > firoz > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rohiet A. Patil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:16 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] AboutInstalling Ultimate Voice Recorderin Nokia n 72 > > >> Hi! >> installing this application may disturb your vibrater settings. The >> vibrater >> may not stop running after any miss call or mesage tone. >> Thanks and regards, >> Rohiet >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kulkarni Suresh G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 6:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] AboutInstalling Ultimate Voice Recorderin Nokia n 72 >> >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Video recording and images are disturbed. You can use video or camera >>> by >>> uninstalling ultimate recorder. As far as hanging handset is concerned, >>> there is no problem. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "tiku raj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 12:37 PM >>> Subject: [AI] AboutInstalling Ultimate Voice Recorderin Nokia n 72 >>> >>> >>>> Hello Friends, >>>> >>>> I want to install UltimateVoice Recorder in my mob Nokia n72. I want >>>> to know the advantages and disadvantages of this recorder. Will I have >>>> any problem after installing. Will the mob hang after installing >>>> recorder. >>>> >>>> Any one using this recorder can help me out and guide me how to use it >>>> also. >>>> >>>> Help in this regard will be highly appreciated. >>>> >>>> Tiku >>>> >>>> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >>>> Registration is now open! >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please visit the list home page at >>>> >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> >>> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >>> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >>> Registration is now open! >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >> Registration is now open! >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:48:45 +0530 > From: "Amit Bhatt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [AI] AboutInstalling Ultimate Voice Recorderin Nokia n 72 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I was not getting call waiting beep while receiving call from any 3rd > person > after installing Ultimate recorder in N72. > And I faced the same problem with vibrator setting too. > > Thanks, > > Amit Bhatt > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "firoz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] AboutInstalling Ultimate Voice Recorderin Nokia n 72 > > >>i am using application since last two years >> >> i have not encounter any problem so far >> >> it works fantastic for me >> >> firoz >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rohiet A. Patil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] AboutInstalling Ultimate Voice Recorderin Nokia n 72 >> >> >>> Hi! >>> installing this application may disturb your vibrater settings. The >>> vibrater >>> may not stop running after any miss call or mesage tone. >>> Thanks and regards, >>> Rohiet >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Kulkarni Suresh G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 6:19 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] AboutInstalling Ultimate Voice Recorderin Nokia n 72 >>> >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Video recording and images are disturbed. You can use video or >>>> camera >>>> by >>>> uninstalling ultimate recorder. As far as hanging handset is >>>> concerned, >>>> there is no problem. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "tiku raj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 12:37 PM >>>> Subject: [AI] AboutInstalling Ultimate Voice Recorderin Nokia n 72 >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello Friends, >>>>> >>>>> I want to install UltimateVoice Recorder in my mob Nokia n72. I want >>>>> to know the advantages and disadvantages of this recorder. Will I have >>>>> any problem after installing. Will the mob hang after installing >>>>> recorder. >>>>> >>>>> Any one using this recorder can help me out and guide me how to use it >>>>> also. >>>>> >>>>> Help in this regard will be highly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Tiku >>>>> >>>>> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >>>>> Registration is now open! >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>> >>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >>>> Registration is now open! >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please visit the list home page at >>>> >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >>> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >>> Registration is now open! >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >> Registration is now open! >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: 27 Aug 2008 07:30:26 -0000 > From: "lokesh " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia Digest, Vol 28, Issue 103 please help me > how to crack jaws and installzation > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > > On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : >>Send AccessIndia mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>You can reach the person managing the list at >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>than "Re: Contents of AccessIndia digest..." >> >> >>Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: About LostInTheStacks. (Mamta) >> 2. Re: AboutInstalling Ultimate Voice Recorderin Nokia n 72 >> (Rohiet A. Patil) >> 3. Re: Convention (mukesh jain) >> 4. Re: Convention (Pranav Lal) >> 5. Re: About LostInTheStacks. (George Abraham) >> 6. .Act file converter for MP3 players (Harish Kotian) >> 7. Re: U.S. Says Many Apartments Violate Law on Disabled - >> (Kanchan Pamnani) >> 8. Re: About LostInTheStacks. (Amiyo Biswas) >> 9. Re: About Firefox. (Amiyo Biswas) >> 10. Re: .Act file converter for MP3 players (Subramani L) >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>Message: 1 >>Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:03:37 +0530 >> From: "Mamta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: [AI] About LostInTheStacks. >>To: <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >>Here is perhaps what you are looking for: >> >> >>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lostinthestacks2/ >> >> >>They had sent an mail inviting all the members to join this group instead. >> >>Hope that this would be of help >>many thanks >>rgds >>mamta. >>----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Amiyo Biswas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:54 PM >>Subject: [AI] About LostInTheStacks. >> >> >>Hello, >> >>I am not getting any message from LostInTheStacks mailing list since the >>19th. My message got the "no such list exists" message from yahoo groups >>system. I clicked on the list site at >>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LostInTheStacks/ >> >>It says the same thing, no such list exists. How did it vanish overnight? >> >>Best regards, >>Amiyo. >>Cell: +91-9433464329 >>Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >>http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >>Registration is now open! >> >>To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>with >>the subject unsubscribe. >> >>To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>please >>visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 2 >>Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:16:41 +0530 >> From: "Rohiet A. Patil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: [AI] AboutInstalling Ultimate Voice Recorderin Nokia n 72 >>To: [email protected] >>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; >> reply-type=original >> >>Hi! >>installing this application may disturb your vibrater settings. The >>vibrater >>may not stop running after any miss call or mesage tone. >>Thanks and regards, >>Rohiet >>----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kulkarni Suresh G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 6:19 PM >>Subject: Re: [AI] AboutInstalling Ultimate Voice Recorderin Nokia n 72 >> >> >> > Hello, >> > >> > Video recording and images are disturbed. You can use video or >> > camera >> > by >> > uninstalling ultimate recorder. As far as hanging handset is >> > concerned, >> > there is no problem. >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "tiku raj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 12:37 PM >> > Subject: [AI] AboutInstalling Ultimate Voice Recorderin Nokia n 72 >> > >> > >> >> Hello Friends, >> >> >> >> I want to install UltimateVoice Recorder in my mob Nokia n72. I want >> >> to know the advantages and disadvantages of this recorder. Will I have >> >> any problem after installing. Will the mob hang after installing >> >> recorder. >> >> >> >> Any one using this recorder can help me out and guide me how to use it >> >> also. >> >> >> >> Help in this regard will be highly appreciated. >> >> >> >> Tiku >> >> >> >> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >> >> Registration is now open! >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> >> please visit the list home page at >> >> >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > >> > >> > >> > Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >> > http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >> > Registration is now open! >> > >> > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > with the subject unsubscribe. >> > >> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> > please visit the list home page at >> > >> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 3 >>Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:20:24 +0530 >> From: "mukesh jain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: [AI] Convention >>To: Pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] >>Message-ID: >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >>respected madam, as per your mail, you have asked about braille >>reading. in this regard, it is to kindly inform you that i can read >>braille. so if anything can be done by me it would be a great pleasure >>to me. so i do sincerely request you to kindly let me know for the >>same. secondly,verry long back, you have forwarded a data form in to >>my inbox but i do not know how come it appeared in my spam mails. it >>is just that verry recently i could learn about the spam mails and i >>did checked my inbox of spam mails. there i got your mail but thinking >>that it must have been too late to submit now and therefore, i could >>not do the same. so may i please submit this data form now? please do >>let me know. please do consider it. your kind coperation in this >>regard is highly solicited. >> thanking you, >> with regards, >> mukesh jain. >> >>On 8/26/08, Pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > For those who are coming to the Convention >> > 1. Please let me know if you can read braille and would like to >> > introduce a >> > Speaker. >> > 2. If you can sing, play an instrumen or compere or do anything which >> > will >> > entertain us. >> > Write to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > Kanchan Pamnani >> > Advocate & Solicitor >> > 9, Suleman Chambers, >> > Battery Street, Colaba, >> > Mumbai - 400 039. >> > >> > >> > Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >> > http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >> > Registration is now open! >> > >> > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > with >> > the subject unsubscribe. >> > >> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> > please >> > visit the list home page at >> > >> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > >> >> >>-- >>Mukesh Jain >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> mobile: 09977165123 >> "happiness and joy are the wealth of prosperous life" >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 4 >>Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:17:20 +0530 >> From: "Pranav Lal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: [AI] Convention >>To: "'Pamnani'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >>Hi, >> >>Though I can read braille, I would not want to introduce a Speaker unless >>absolutely necessary. My braille reading speed is abysmal. >> >>-----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pamnani >>Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:24 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [AI] Convention >> >>For those who are coming to the Convention >>1. Please let me know if you can read braille and would like to introduce >>a >>Speaker. >>2. If you can sing, play an instrumen or compere or do anything which will >>entertain us. >>Write to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>Kanchan Pamnani >>Advocate & Solicitor >>9, Suleman Chambers, >>Battery Street, Colaba, >>Mumbai - 400 039. >> >> >>Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >>http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >>Registration is now open! >> >>To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>with >>the subject unsubscribe. >> >>To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>please >>visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 5 >>Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:10:11 +0530 >> From: "George Abraham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: [AI] About LostInTheStacks. >>To: <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >>Hi, >> >>They hhave had to shut the group down. There is another group launched >>called lost in the stacks 2 >> >>To subscribe send a blank mail to >> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>Enjoy! >> >>George >>----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Amiyo Biswas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:54 PM >>Subject: [AI] About LostInTheStacks. >> >> >> > Hello, >> > >> > I am not getting any message from LostInTheStacks mailing list since >> > the >> > 19th. My message got the "no such list exists" message from yahoo >> > groups >> > system. I clicked on the list site at >> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LostInTheStacks/ >> > >> > It says the same thing, no such list exists. How did it vanish >> > overnight? >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Amiyo. >> > Cell: +91-9433464329 >> > Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >> > http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >> > Registration is now open! >> > >> > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > with the subject unsubscribe. >> > >> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> > please visit the list home page at >> > >> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 6 >>Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:15:32 +0530 >> From: "Harish Kotian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: [AI] .Act file converter for MP3 players >>To: <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >>Hello all >> >>It took me quite a while finding a converter for converting .act files to >>.wav files. ACT files are created by some MP3 players. >> >>I have found this tool and is accessible too. >>Download it from: >>http://www.sendspace.com/file/2bnkv7 >> >>It will be available for only 7 days from now. >>Harish. >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 7 >>Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:19:40 +0530 >> From: Kanchan Pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: [AI] U.S. Says Many Apartments Violate Law on Disabled - >>To: <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >>Yes arvind we have all the lawsand it is only a question of >>implementation. >>In India I dont think we have building laws which take into account >>wheelchairs. >>I posted this article mainly to show that the US has laws but even these >>are >>not implemented.We will have to work to ensure that laws are not only put >>into place but are given effect to in the right spirit. >>A good example is our RBI Circular of 4 June 2008. We have the law and it >>is >>being slowly but surely implemented. Most Branch managers get a shock >>when >>they see that circular in the hands of the Visually challenged. I have >>been >>getting lots of complaints off the list. First reaction is we cannot give >>you these facilities then when they see the circular they say we will come >>back in a few days and most of the time they come back with a favourable >>response. The use of any law is not in its existence but in its >>implementation.Non implementation is easy but implementation requires >>exercise of ones brains and muscle so its easier not to implement and >>thats >>when we got to fight for our rights. >>Kanchan >>----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Arvind Bhartiya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:23 >>Subject: Re: [AI] U.S. Says Many Apartments Violate Law on Disabled - >> >> >> > Hi! Kanchan >> > >> > interesting article. But don't you think that we have all the laws , >> > they only need to be implemented honestly. >> > arvind >> > On 8/25/08, pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> This article is from the New yourk times. Though it is not directly >> >> concerned with the Visually Challenged but is still worth reading. I >> >> dont >> >> know when we will have such laws in India. Kanchan >> >> >> >> >> >> U.S. Says Many Apartments Violate Law on Disabled - NYTimes.com >> >> The New York Times >> >> Printer Friendly Format Sponsored By choke/choke_88x31 >> >> >> >> August 19, 2008 >> >> >> >> U.S. Says Many Apartments Violate Law on Disabled >> >> By >> >> CHARLES V. BAGLI >> >> >> >> Facing potential lawsuits by the federal government, developers and >> >> landlords in New York City may need to spend tens of millions of >> >> dollars >> >> to >> >> renovate >> >> more than 100,000 apartments built since 1991 to comply with federal >> >> housing >> >> laws barring discrimination against tenants who use wheelchairs, real >> >> estate >> >> industry officials say. >> >> >> >> For 20 years, residential developers have complied with a city law >> >> requiring >> >> them to ensure that all the apartments they build are accessible to >> >> disabled >> >> tenants. Considered path-breaking legislation when it was enacted in >> >> 1988, >> >> the city law essentially meets the federal requirements of the Fair >> >> Housing >> >> Act, developers and city officials say. >> >> >> >> But the United States attorney's office in Manhattan has sent letters >> >> to >> >> about a dozen of the city's most prominent landlords and their >> >> architects >> >> saying >> >> that some of their buildings were "not accessible to persons with >> >> disabilities," which would constitute discrimination under the Fair >> >> Housing >> >> Act. The >> >> recipients included Related Companies, the >> >> Durst Organization >> >> , Rose Associates, Rockrose Development and Silverstein Properties. >> >> >> >> The letters said that doors were not wide enough, and that kitchens >> >> and >> >> bathrooms were not big enough to allow someone in a wheelchair to >> >> maneuver. >> >> Also, >> >> the letters said, tenants could not install "grab bars" to lift >> >> themselves >> >> in or out of a tub, because the walls had not been reinforced. >> >> >> >> The federal prosecutor's office, which began sending the letters in >> >> January, >> >> has asked owners for meetings, building inspections and all the >> >> records >> >> of >> >> the design and layout of the apartments in specific buildings. Until >> >> recently, the real estate industry had hoped that the matter would >> >> quietly >> >> go away. >> >> >> >> But last week, the United States attorney's office filed a lawsuit >> >> against >> >> one of the recipients, AvalonBay Communities, and its architects, >> >> charging >> >> them >> >> with discrimination against disabled people by failing to provide >> >> sufficient >> >> access at Avalon Chrystie Place, a building on the Lower East Side >> >> with >> >> 361 >> >> apartments. >> >> >> >> Now other landlords and developers - virtually everyone who has built >> >> an >> >> apartment house in New York City since 1991 - fear they may be next. >> >> Along >> >> with >> >> city officials, they assert that compliance with what is known as >> >> Local >> >> Law >> >> 58 satisfies the standards set by the Fair Housing Act. >> >> >> >> "This is not limited to these 12 or 13 buildings," said Steven >> >> Spinola, >> >> president of the >> >> Real Estate Board of New York >> >> , the industry's powerful lobbying arm. "If there's a decision that >> >> Local >> >> Law 58 does not meet the criteria for apartments' being accessible, >> >> you >> >> could >> >> easily argue that every building built since 1991 wasn't built in >> >> accordance >> >> with the federal guidelines." >> >> >> >> Mr. Spinola estimates that 100,000 rental apartments have been built >> >> since >> >> 1991, as well as thousands of condominiums. The cost of renovating >> >> bathrooms >> >> and kitchens, one developer said, would be "astronomical." Another >> >> said >> >> that >> >> his company was already redesigning apartments for future buildings in >> >> ways >> >> that would eliminate foyer closets to provide more room for entryways. >> >> >> >> City officials, who had scheduled a meeting with federal prosecutors >> >> for >> >> the >> >> day after the suit was filed against AvalonBay, promptly canceled it, >> >> furious >> >> that they had not been notified. >> >> >> >> "In light of the U.S. attorney's lawsuit, we postponed our meeting so >> >> we >> >> could assess the matter," Martha Mann Alfaro, a deputy chief in the >> >> city's >> >> Law >> >> Department, said in a statement. "However, we anticipate having >> >> productive >> >> discussions with the U.S. attorney." >> >> >> >> Rebekah Carmichael, a spokeswoman for the United States attorney, >> >> Michael >> >> J. >> >> Garcia, declined to comment, saying the office did not confirm or deny >> >> the >> >> existence of current investigations. >> >> >> >> Edward M. Schulman, general counsel for AvalonBay, said the company's >> >> housing was "fully accessible to persons with disabilities." >> >> >> >> "Our buildings have been constructed in compliance with New York >> >> City's >> >> Local Law 58," he said. "We are at a loss to understand why the >> >> federal >> >> government >> >> is suddenly viewing New York City's Local Law 58 as deficient and >> >> unsatisfactory." >> >> >> >> This year, the landlords and architects enlisted the Bloomberg >> >> administration to help push back the federal prosecutors. And the Real >> >> Estate Board hired >> >> a former federal prosecutor, Sarah L. Shudofsky, to represent them. >> >> >> >> Jonathan Durst, co-president of the Durst Organization, described the >> >> investigation as "an incredible waste of government resources." The >> >> Durst >> >> Organization >> >> got a letter concerning the Helena, a 600-unit apartment building at >> >> 57th >> >> Street and 12th Avenue. >> >> >> >> But Kleo King, senior vice president for accessibility services for >> >> the >> >> United Spinal Association, a nonprofit advocacy group, said that the >> >> federal >> >> government >> >> had never recognized Local Law 58 as an acceptable alternative, or >> >> "safe >> >> harbor," to federal standards. She said that after Law 58 was in >> >> place, >> >> the >> >> city >> >> lowered clearance requirements for bathrooms and began allowing >> >> kitchen >> >> sink >> >> and cooktop installations that did not provide adequate floor space >> >> for >> >> tenants >> >> with wheelchairs. >> >> >> >> "Just because they were able to get a building permit, it does not >> >> mean >> >> they >> >> complied with Fair Housing," said Ms. King, whose organization used to >> >> be >> >> known >> >> as the Eastern Paralyzed Veterans Association. "The real point that >> >> the >> >> Department of Justice is trying to make is that people building these >> >> buildings >> >> have to look at both laws to make sure that they're in compliance." >> >> >> >> Twenty years ago, advocates for the disabled hailed the stringent >> >> regulations in Local Law 58 while Mr. Spinola denounced it, saying it >> >> would >> >> drive up housing >> >> costs. It required that all new and renovated apartments be made >> >> accessible >> >> to the disabled, in contrast with federal standards at the time, which >> >> required >> >> that only 5 percent be accessible. >> >> >> >> "It was seen as a breakthrough," said Marilyn Saviola, an advocate for >> >> the >> >> disabled who was part of a group that helped write the city law. "But >> >> it >> >> was >> >> a hard battle. There was tremendous resistance from the >> >> administration, >> >> initially, and there was a great deal of resistance from the real >> >> estate >> >> community." >> >> >> >> In 1991, the federal government also raised its requirements for >> >> housing >> >> accessibility. But there is not a mandatory and uniform set of >> >> standards, >> >> although >> >> the >> >> Department of Housing and Urban Development >> >> cites the design standards set by the American National Standards >> >> Institute. >> >> >> >> The federal investigation in New York began with a 2006 survey by the >> >> Fair >> >> Housing Justice Center, a nonprofit New York group, covering 14 >> >> recently >> >> built >> >> apartment buildings in Manhattan, including AvalonBay's Chrystie >> >> Place. >> >> >> >> Diane Houk, executive director of the fair housing center, said that >> >> her >> >> group found that all 14 buildings had interior apartment doors that >> >> were >> >> too >> >> narrow, >> >> 28 and 30 inches, thermostats as high as 63 inches from the floor and >> >> a >> >> lack >> >> of clear floor space in the bathrooms. >> >> >> >> "We found that none were in compliance with the Federal Housing Act >> >> and >> >> referred all the information to the U.S. attorney and briefed HUD," >> >> she >> >> said. "I >> >> do not understand why New York City developers and architects thought >> >> they >> >> were exempt." >> >> >> >> In a July 14 letter to the United States attorney's office, however, >> >> Michael A. Cardozo >> >> , the city's corporation counsel, wrote that the city's law addressed >> >> all >> >> the features of accessibility required by the law. He acknowledged >> >> that >> >> it >> >> "does >> >> not impose precisely the same requirements," but he added that the >> >> local >> >> law >> >> satisfied the intent of the law. >> >> Copyright 2008 >> >> The New York Times Company >> >> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >> >> Registration is now open! >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> with >> >> the subject unsubscribe. >> >> >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> >> please >> >> visit the list home page at >> >> >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> > >> > Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >> > http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >> > Registration is now open! >> > >> > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > with the subject unsubscribe. >> > >> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> > please visit the list home page at >> > >> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 8 >>Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:01:47 +0530 >> From: "Amiyo Biswas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: [AI] About LostInTheStacks. >>To: <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >>Thank you very much. >> >>Best regards, >>Amiyo. >>Cell: +91-9433464329 >>----- Original Message ----- >> From: "George Abraham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:10 AM >>Subject: Re: [AI] About LostInTheStacks. >> >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > They hhave had to shut the group down. There is another group launched >> > called lost in the stacks 2 >> > >> > To subscribe send a blank mail to >> > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > Enjoy! >> > >> > George >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Amiyo Biswas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:54 PM >> > Subject: [AI] About LostInTheStacks. >> > >> > >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> I am not getting any message from LostInTheStacks mailing list since >> >> the >> >> 19th. My message got the "no such list exists" message from yahoo >> >> groups >> >> system. I clicked on the list site at >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LostInTheStacks/ >> >> >> >> It says the same thing, no such list exists. How did it vanish >> >> overnight? >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Amiyo. >> >> Cell: +91-9433464329 >> >> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >> >> Registration is now open! >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> >> please visit the list home page at >> >> >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > >> > >> > Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >> > http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >> > Registration is now open! >> > >> > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > with the subject unsubscribe. >> > >> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> > please visit the list home page at >> > >> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 9 >>Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:20:47 +0530 >> From: "Amiyo Biswas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: [AI] About Firefox. >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >>Hello Roopakshi, >> >>Thank you for the information. I am using firefox with jaws 9 and NVDA. >>It's >>working fine now. I read that firefox is seven times faster than IE. Is it >>true? I did not notice any significant improvement in download speed. >> >>Best regards, >>Amiyo. >>Cell: +91-9433464329 >>----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Roopakshi Pathania" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 11:20 PM >>Subject: Re: [AI] About Firefox. >> >> >> > Hello, >> > >> > Here are a few sources that might help you out. >> > >> > For queries related to using a screen reader with ff, there is a >> > "Firefox >> > 3 with Screen Readers FAQ" hosted at this webpage. >> > >> > http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Firefox+3+with+Screen+Readers+FAQ >> > >> > To know about accessibility tools and resources used with firefox go to >> > this website. >> > http://accessfirefox.org/ >> > >> > For those having difficulty using ff3, I think that using older >> > versions >> > with jaws is mostly alright. >> > Before any one changes their version of firefox, I would again ask you >> > to >> > read the FAQ. >> > >> > Finally, if you are having problems specific to firefox, I have the >> > email >> > address of the accessibility engineer at Mozilla. Email me off list to >> > get >> > the address >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > >> > >> > --- On Fri, 8/22/08, Amiyo Biswas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> From: Amiyo Biswas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Subject: [AI] About Firefox. >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 6:27 AM >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> I can't comfortably use firefox. Most of the time the >> >> window vanishes when I try to use ctrl+l or start a >> >> download. I have even lost the configurations I made. Is >> >> there any simple guide? >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Amiyo. >> >> Cell: +91-9433464329 >> >> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >> >> Registration is now open! >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject >> >> unsubscribe. >> >> >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any >> >> other changes, please visit the list home page at >> >> >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >> > http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >> > Registration is now open! >> > >> > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > with the subject unsubscribe. >> > >> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> > please visit the list home page at >> > >> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 10 >>Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:05:10 +0530 >> From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: [AI] .Act file converter for MP3 players >>To: <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >> >>Any ways of converting ogg files into mp3? And if those files happen to >>be big are there ways of compressing them? >> >>Subramani >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harish >>Kotian >>Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:16 AM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [AI] .Act file converter for MP3 players >> >>Hello all >> >>It took me quite a while finding a converter for converting .act files >>to .wav files. ACT files are created by some MP3 players. >> >>I have found this tool and is accessible too. >>Download it from: >>http://www.sendspace.com/file/2bnkv7 >> >>It will be available for only 7 days from now. >>Harish. >> >> >> >>Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: >>http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >>Registration is now open! >> >>To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>with the subject unsubscribe. >> >>To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>please visit the list home page at >> >>http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >>n >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>AccessIndia mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >>End of AccessIndia Digest, Vol 28, Issue 103 >>******************************************** > hello friends, this is Lokesh from Bangalore. i want to know how to crack > jaws and how to do that please hel p me > > Regards KKL Medical transcriptionest bang 9844877508 Vindhya E infomedia > pvt ltd > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > AccessIndia mailing list > [email protected] > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > End of AccessIndia Digest, Vol 28, Issue 104 > ******************************************** > Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm Registration is now open! 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