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Today's Topics:
1. FW: help with web accessibilitysurvey (Kotian, H P)
2. cricket (Ketan Kothari)
3. Re: Testing Automation (Ch. Srinivasu)
4. Re: Accuracy of Speech Recognition softwares? (Pranav Lal)
5. Re: help required for accessibility project (Vedprakash Sharma)
6. How to make my Name appear in From: instead of a number when
sending an SMS? (Syed the Gadgeteer)
7. Accupuncture Treatment. (P. Subramani)
8. Contact Details. (P. Subramani)
9. OPORTUNITY FOR NETWORK ENGINEER: (sakinadhariwala)
10. Thankyou for the support (ruchir falodiya)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:57:41 +0530
From: "Kotian, H P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [AI] FW: help with web accessibilitysurvey
To: "'[email protected]'"
<[email protected]>
Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Dear all
I hope our members will volunteer enthusiastically for the survey.
I suggest if members would also test it with some free screen readers like
NVDA, SAFA etc along with their regular screen readers. Pl also indicate
the screen reader and the version no you are using.
Best regards
Harish.
________________________________
From: Nirmita Narasimhan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:48 PM
To: Kotian, H P
Subject: Re: help with web accessibilitysurvey
Dear Harish,
can't get through to your number. Shall call tomorrow. I am producing
below the message I posted on Accessindia. It doesn't seem to have been
reflected. Could you help me with this?
Thanks, Nirmita
Dear All,
As you are aware the Centre for Internet and Society has launched a
campaign for having a national policy on accessibility. We had our first
meeting for devicing a strategy for making web standards mandatory in
India in our office in Bangalore on 7th November. You can read about this
at http://www.cis-india.org/advocacy/open-standards/accessibility
In order to take this forward, I was looking at having a survey on a very
small level of some twenty Government web sites which would be critical
for our use. I was wondering if some of you would volunteer to help me out
with this. The sites I had in mind were-
National Informatics Centre, Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment
(highly inaccessible), Railways, UGC, some education sites like IIM A, B,
IIT Delhi and Kanpur, Jawaharlal Nehru University, Delhi University, some
medical sites like AIMS and CMC Vellore, some banking sites like SBI,
Syndicate Bank and Punjab National Bank, Income Tax site and maybe the
Parliament- Lok and Rajya Sabhas.
If you could-
A. rate the site on a scale from 1-10
b. mention how accessible it is and give some of the problems encountered
in each siteit would be great.
I really need this info and would really appreciate your help in this
matter.
If the volunteers can indicate at the beginning what sites they will like
to review, it would save duplication.
Thanks in anticipation, Nirmita
n
Nirmita Narasimhan
Centre for Internet and Society
No. D2, 3rd Floor, Sheriff Chambers
14, Cunningham Road, Bangalore - 560 052
P: +91 80 4092 6283
M: 098458 68078
----- Original Message -----
From: Kotian, H P<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Nirmita Narasimhan'<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: help with web accessibilitysurvey
Dear Nirmita
Yes, you ask for volunteers on the list for this project.
Depending on the number of volunteers you get, you can give 1 website to
more than 1 individual andsee what results you get.
Do fine the screen reader they are using and its version.
For more info, pl feel free to speak on phone.
Harish.
________________________________
From: Nirmita Narasimhan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:02 PM
To: Kotian, H P
Subject: Re: help with web accessibilitysurvey
Dear Harish,
thanks. Yes I am a member of access india. I did consider this
possibility, but do you think that I will be able to get systematic tests
done by persons? Also I did ask Barrier Break too, but I think they are
too expensive and considering I just need this for research and
documentation I thought if I could find individual volunteers who can help
me out it would be great.
Please advise, Nirmita
----- Original Message -----
From: Kotian, H P<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Nirmita Narasimhan'<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:51 PM
Subject: RE: help with web accessibilitysurvey
Hi Nirmita
Sure it can be done. I suggest you put your request to accessIndia mailing
list.
Here you would get volunteers for the same and distribute the work.
Professionally BarrierBreak would have done work on the same.
If you are not a member of AccessIndia as yet, then you can write to me
providing the email ID on which you want the mails to flow.
You can reach me on the following no:
Res. 022 26336938
Office 022 22601000 ext. 2575
Regards
Harish.
________________________________
From: Nirmita Narasimhan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:42 PM
To: Kotian, H P
Subject: help with web accessibilitysurvey
Hi Harish,
I am working for the Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) in Bangalore. I
am doing work on web accessibility amongst other things. My main interest
area here is accessibility for disabled persons. Currently we have
launched a campaign to bring web accessibility into the national policy
and make it mandatory for all government web sites to comply with WCAG or
any tther adopted standards. In that context I required rather urgently a
survey of some government sites which are frequently and necessarily used
by disabled persons. The sites I had in mind are- NIC.in, Ministry of
Social Justice and Empowerment, Railways, the Lok and Rajya Sabhas and the
Parliament, the PM and the President, some education sites like- IIT, IIM,
Jawarharlal Nehru University, Delhi University, health sites like AIMS
Delhi and CMC Vellore, Banking sites like SBI, Syndicate Bank and P NB
etc. I was wondering if you could help me in any way with this? If you
could give me your mobile number I could call and we could talk further
about it.
Looking forward to your response, cheers, Nirmita
Nirmita Narasimhan
Centre for Internet and Society
No. D2, 3rd Floor, Sheriff Chambers
14, Cunningham Road, Bangalore - 560 052
P: +91 80 4092 6283
M: 098458 68078
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:07:12 +0530
From: "Ketan Kothari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [AI] cricket
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
If anyone is interested in West Indies v Pakistan ODI's here it is:
http://radio.900am.net:8000/900
am
Ketan Kothari
Phone: [r] 24223281,
Cell: 9987550614
MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype ID: Ketan3333
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:22:55 +0530
From: "Ch. Srinivasu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [AI] Testing Automation
To: "'silpa'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Silpa,
What's the products that you would be testing? Is it web or software?
Please
specify accordingly, I can make suggestions.
Thanks & regards,
Ch. Srinivasu | Access Consultant
BarrierBreak Technologies
HO: +91 22 26860485 / 86 Cell: +91 9177 383855
Website: http://www.barrierbreak.com
Please do not print this email unless it's really need to; this will
preserve our trees
-----Original Message-----
From: silpa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AI] Testing Automation
Hi all,
Can blind people do automation in testing?
Are there any tools that can be used by blinds?
If so, will any screen readers support such tools and what are those
screen
readers?ny
Any info and help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks and regards,
Silpa.
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:24:48 +0530
From: "Pranav Lal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [AI] Accuracy of Speech Recognition softwares?
To: [email protected]
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Subramani,
This question is asked about once a week on some of the Dragon forums
I frequennt. Unless you have a very clear recording you cannot
transcribe interviews. You can have a go at it using univoice but the
proposition is not really workable even with Dragon Naturally speaking
version 10 which can be run without training.
Pranav
On 11/12/08, Subramani L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
But Pranav: a lot of people have recommended Dragon Naturally speak
(though I pretty much normally operate PCs with fingers), suggesting
that I can convert audio recordings of persons I interview instantly
into text --which, come to think of it, is actually a dam good thing.
But I often wondered if it is possible. Because I think Dragon doesn't
recognise any and all voices and one needs to train the software to
recognise the voices. So, is that suggestion entirely unworkable, or do
you think by having Dragon+J-Say I can still convert my interviews into
text?
Subramani
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Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AI] Accuracy of Speech Recognition softwares?
Hi,
It is indeed possible to use Dragon NaturallySpeaking without J-Say.
however, if you do not use J-Say, the following limitations apply.
1. You cannot control Jaws for Windows. So, you would still be using
your
hands to issue Jaws commands.
2. The training interface of Dragon NaturallySpeaking is not natively
supported by Jaws for Windows. This means that the initial training that
you
need to-do before using Dragon NaturallySpeaking is going to be very
difficult.
3. You cannot hear what you have dictated in real-time. That is, when
J-Say
is being used with Jaws for Windows and Dragon NaturallySpeaking, you
can
hear what you have dictated in real-time. This capability is not
natively
supported by Jaws for Windows.
4. There are several commands that J-Say has to facilitate the use of
Microsoft Office and other applications. You can indeed get similar
commands
with Dragon NaturallySpeaking however, you will be subjected to
excessive
verbiage when those commands execute since, all they do is send various
key
presses to the computer.
As regards the pricing, I have discussed this with Terry Clasper who is
the
chairman of T&T Consultancy who are the makers of J-Say. He did hint
that he
would be willing to reduce the price for the Indian market. However, we
need
to take specific action in this context like what has been done with
Wayfinder Access.
Pranav
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:41:47 +0530
From: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [AI] help required for accessibility project
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Thanks for taking up the issue.
I'd give my feedback about a very important site for those who are working
as teachers in the schools of Delhi.
http://www.edudel.nic.in
All those who work with the department of education, Delhi Government, use
this site frequently as the government has decided to implement the
e-governance and all the important things like transfer orders, all
circulars, election duties, list of promotions etc are displayed on the
aforesaid link.
I think I should give the site fifth rank. it is accessible but the
circulars are not displayed properly. they just type the circulars, scan
them and put the scanned file as a link to the circular. they do not
follow the proper procedures regarding the alternate text for the graphics
or images etc.
----- Original Message -----
From: Nirmita Narasimhan
To: [email protected]
Cc: Sunil Abraham
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:14 PM
Subject: [AI] help required for accessibility project
Dear All,
As you are aware the Centre for Internet and Society has launched a
campaign for having a national policy on accessibility. We had our first
meeting for devicing a strategy for making web standards mandatory in
India in our office in Bangalore on 7th November. You can read about this
at http://www.cis-india.org/advocacy/open-standards/accessibility
In order to take this forward, I was looking at having a survey on a very
small level of some twenty Government web sites which would be critical
for our use. I was wondering if some of you would volunteer to help me out
with this. The sites I had in mind were-
National Informatics Centre, Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment
(highly inaccessible), Railways, UGC, some education sites like IIM A, B,
IIT Delhi and Kanpur, Jawaharlal Nehru University, Delhi University, some
medical sites like AIMS and CMC Vellore, some banking sites like SBI,
Syndicate Bank and Punjab National Bank, Income Tax site and maybe the
Parliament- Lok and Rajya Sabhas.
If you could-
A. rate the site on a scale from 1-10
b. mention how accessible it is and give some of the problems encountered
in each siteit would be great.
I really need this info and would really appreciate your help in this
matter.
If the volunteers can indicate at the beginning what sites they will like
to review, it would save duplication.
Thanks in anticipation, Nirmita
n
Nirmita Narasimhan
Centre for Internet and Society
No. D2, 3rd Floor, Sheriff Chambers
14, Cunningham Road, Bangalore - 560 052
P: +91 80 4092 6283
M: 098458 68078
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:54:02 -0800
From: Syed the Gadgeteer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [AI] How to make my Name appear in From: instead of a number
when sending an SMS?
To: "\"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" c;"
<[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
hi
When I SMS someone, How do I make my name appear in 'From:' field
instead of my phone number?
when some companies like ICICI, HP, Airtel, or HDFC SMS you, in 'From:'
field, you don't see their number, but you see their name, regardless of
their name not being in your contacts. How can I
also do the same?
I want to make "Syed the gadgeteer" appear in the From: field of the
recipient's phone, instead of some number like +919945479974. How can I
do that?
Syed Imran
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:02:18 +0930
From: "P. Subramani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [AI] Accupuncture Treatment.
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Would like feedback regarding Accupuncture Treatment for Retinitis
Pigmentosa provided by Dr. Avnish Chopra, New Delhi, Stone Clinic, the
pros and cons. This is very urgent. P. Subramani
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:04:32 +0930
From: "P. Subramani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [AI] Contact Details.
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Needed contact details of Mr. Rajesh Kankaria, Kolkatta, an AI member very
quickly. P. Subramani
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:31:27 +0530
From: "sakinadhariwala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [AI] OPORTUNITY FOR NETWORK ENGINEER:
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Now there is fear of economical crises on software fields.
So network engineering field is awaiting for youth.
International Data Corporation {I.D.C.}
According to the report of above corporation, at present in India there is
scarecity of 1.18. Lakhs of networking engineers and this figure will
increase more than 1.37.Lakhs
Inspite of economical crises the job oportunities is assured.
Best regards Sakina.
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:31:47 +0530
From: "ruchir falodiya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [AI] Thankyou for the support
To: accessindia <[email protected]>
Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
hello all my dear friends at accessindia.
with support from all of you, encouragement and knowledge i've gained
from this mailing list, can never thank enough for that to all of you.
with the help of same such type of contribution from members of
accessindia,
my blog,
www.ruchir89.wordpress.com
has reached above 1000 hits/visits today.
also, the new venture of explaining computer programming with
experience with screenReader, i've came to know that peoples have been
appreciating
once again, i'd like to thank you all, and hope to get further
benefited from all my friends here at accessindia.
with warm regards,
ruchir.
--
As long as forever,
I will stay by your side,
I'll be your companion,
Your friend and your guide!!!
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