Hi Pranav sir The main purpose of having a separate disability coach is to ensure that disabled persons have a seat in case the trains are fully crowded, which usually is the case in India. Even the toilet is designed in such a way that even people with physical disabilities can use it with some sort of ease. There may be some other facilities, but my knowledge limits me till here.
-- G. Vamshi PH Res : +91 877-2243861 Mobile: +91 9949349497 E-mail ID: [email protected] Skype: gvamshi81 God helps those who help themselves On 6/12/09, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <[email protected]> wrote: > A couple of things can be tried out here. First, one can politely > request normal passengers to relocate their seats for us. Not > listened? We have the best tool in terms of the emergency chain and > the train has to stop as long as we are holding it. I have been > successful several times in drawing the attention of the authorities > by this method. Last but not the least, we should remember that the > first person who is responsible to ensure that disabled coatch is > being used by them alone is the train guard and if he/she, usually it > is a he because of the patriarchy of the Indian rail way system should > be made accountable for such happenings and one can write to the > concerned station director and the rail way divisional manager of a > particular division. Last but not the least, call the police if you > have access to cellphone. This can usually be done by diling 911 or > 112. It of course does not work with BSNL. > > Vetri. > > On 11/06/2009, phani srikanth <[email protected]> wrote: >> hi all, yes we have to always share the responsibility while fighting >> towards those issues. as far as i am concerned i am ready to lend my >> relentless support both financially and physically to fight for these >> issues. but i feel that we must fight these issues collectively and >> not as an individual as individual protests does not bring any fruits >> from our great governments. So it is requested that all accessindians >> shall come forward for solving these issues. >> >> On 6/11/09, Vamshi. G <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Yes, Kanchan madam, I too accept that many of us are ready to start an >>> e group for discussing various problems of VVI people, but very few >>> are ready to fight for them in the virtual world. >>> I feel these e groups should only serve as home work exercise for the >>> real battles. >>> >>> But, as Rajesh sir said, many of us lack the academic, social and, >>> importantly, the financial resources to take up an issue and fight it >>> out. >>> I am ignorant of the legal costs, actually, how much will it cost to >>> fight a court case, say the one relating to the scribe for banking >>> exams? And how about sharing that cost among ourselves, atleast among >>> those who are employed and willing to afford? >>> >>> Personally, I am ready to spend up to5% of my annual income for this >>> purpose. >>> I know this is an off topic proposal as financial transactions >>> shouldn't be discussed on the list, but if the government is not >>> bothered about us and, as you said, NGOs are so worried about the >>> costs, then we might not have any other option but to shoulder the >>> responsibility. >>> >>> In my second or third class, i used to have a hindi lesson "apna kam >>> swayam karo", which means we should do our works on our own. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> G. Vamshi >>> PH Res : +91 877-2243861 >>> Mobile: +91 9949349497 >>> E-mail ID: >>> [email protected] >>> Skype: gvamshi81 >>> >>> God helps those who help themselves >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6/11/09, Asudani, Rajesh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Yes, Kanchan, everybody has the right to choose one's battles. >>>> However, everybody is not equally capable to fight those out. >>>> There are hundreds of internal and external factors influencing one's >>>> endeavors. >>>> Anyway, I am about to choose my priorities for striving, and it seems >>>> education sector has a vast potential to generate satisfying employment >>>> for >>>> at least those woo persevere at studies. >>>> >>>> I am not comparing priorities. >>>> All issues affecting disabled merit a genuine striving, however, I can >>>> surely say that railways, education, and such other problems do affect >>>> substantially more number of disabled individuals than, say, air travel >>>> and >>>> share trading, which are the domain of a few elite. Moreover, the people >>>> affected by former issues, unlike those affected by later ones, are not >>>> capable themselves to raise a whimper, let alone fight a battle with >>>> authorities. So, we have to launch a full-fledged agitation for all such >>>> issues. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pamnani >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:42 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] "My experience in travel. >>>> >>>> Rajesh, I am glad you accept that you are passive. What stops people >>>> like >>>> you from taking out the agitation. >>>> You are so talented why not use your pen. Get the people around you to >>>> get >>>> together for a rally. I have heard you speak and I know you can >>>> motivate. >>>> Why not start something which we can all join. Something like the dharna >>>> I >>>> had planned against Nasscom and so many accessindians had agreed to be >>>> there. >>>> >>>> Please do not compare priorities if someone wants to fight DGCA let >>>> them. >>>> do not think that one is more than the other. We all have the right to >>>> choose our battles. >>>> >>>> Last week in response to my email on the Database someone did tell me >>>> that >>>> we should be fighting against the coins problem rather than wasting >>>> money >>>> on >>>> a database. . >>>> Why could not that person take up the challenge himself and fight >>>> against >>>> the coins issue and let me choose my battle. >>>> Why does everyone think that others are there to fight these >>>> battles.Lets >>>> fight them for ourselves and for the benfit of others. >>>> >>>> I chose to fight the NSDL or the Banks problem no one forced me to do >>>> them. >>>> On the coins issue I had written a mail about a month ago. After that >>>> there >>>> was complete silence because everyone realised that they did not want to >>>> take the lead. >>>> Yes the railways is a problem. I am going to take up about 3 of those >>>> many >>>> problems after I finish some basic work on the database and on the >>>> scribes >>>> issue. Also the problems of the physiotherapist need to be looked into >>>> urgently. Until I do something you can do a lot. >>>> I hope you and everyone here does do something. >>>> >>>> Kanchan Pamnani >>>> Advocate & Solicitor >>>> 9, Suleman Chambers, >>>> Battery Street, Colaba, >>>> Mumbai - 400 039. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Rahul Gambhir" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:00 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] "My experience in travel. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I also had a similar experience, I was traveling from Dheradun to >>>>> Delhi, >>>>> and >>>>> the railway police allowed 2 persons to get into the coach. They were >>>>> allotted seats against some amount which they paid to security >>>>> personals. >>>>> When I requested one of the security personal to vacate a birth for me >>>>> so >>>>> that I can sleep. He said that there is no birth vacant in the >>>>> compartment. >>>>> And that was the time when I entered into a debate with them, as I was >>>>> aware >>>>> about actual facts. >>>>> >>>>> Normally there are 4 births in the Disabled coach out of which 2 births >>>>> were >>>>> occupied by those sighted persons and one by the 2 security personals, >>>>> and >>>>> one birth by me and my escort. >>>>> >>>>> I started by requesting sighted person to change their coach, as this >>>>> coach >>>>> is reserved for Disabled travelers. The police personals started >>>>> defending >>>>> them as they were bribed for allotting births. >>>>> >>>>> After a long debate with those 4 persons they finally vacated the coach >>>>> at >>>>> haridwar, and we managed to get our due rights. >>>>> >>>>> There are many changes that are required to be brought in the system of >>>>> railways ranging from getting reservation done to traveling, to make >>>>> the >>>>> traveling of disabled persons convenient. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Rahul Gambhir >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Asudani, >>>>> Rajesh >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:33 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] "My experiance in travel. >>>>> >>>>> All these absurd problems with disability sector are because we have >>>>> lost >>>>> ability to give a fight. >>>>> Has there been any rally to voice all these issues? >>>>> Has anybody undertaken a fast to ventilate all such issues? >>>>> Has anybody assassinated a prominent personality because disability >>>>> issues >>>>> were not taken cognizance of? >>>>> >>>>> Millions and millions of disabled continue to live like ants, being >>>>> trod >>>>> upon by so-called normal individuals daily. >>>>> Abusing in the name of caste is a cognizable offence, is it so in the >>>>> name >>>>> of disability? >>>>> No. have you wondered, why? >>>>> Pick up a fight with anybody, and the first explative will be in the >>>>> name >>>>> of your disability... >>>>> >>>>> Establishments not reserving posts, not giving their due to deserving >>>>> candidates, not giving any work even after appointment, constantly >>>>> torturing >>>>> disabled employees for not performing according to prevailing norms and >>>>> procedures, Not allowing use of disabled hoach in the trains >>>>> peacefully, >>>>> declaring totally blind unfit for any job and so on and so on, all >>>>> these >>>>> are >>>>> indignities which we are bearing in the name of civilization. Courts >>>>> are >>>>> not >>>>> a panacea, and are more of problem creators than solvers. >>>>> >>>>> Now, giving one more example, I was threatened by none other than >>>>> assistant >>>>> security officer of our bank that he would not allow my autorikshaw to >>>>> come >>>>> till my flat's door to pick me up and drop me and I should board it my >>>>> outside colony gate. >>>>> Mind you, dispute between us was concerning something else, and he >>>>> brought >>>>> this issue as an example. >>>>> Now, do you think it is decent behaviour? >>>>> And, now, what can I hope for by invoking available remedies? >>>>> >>>>> The point in question is indignities metted out to the person on >>>>> account >>>>> of >>>>> disability and our utter inability to undertake any fruitful action. >>>>> This handicapped compartment issue is also here for ages, since they >>>>> were >>>>> introduced in railways. >>>>> Almost all of us have suffered from it. >>>>> But, we are more concerned with DGCA issuing guidelines for independent >>>>> travel of disable air passengers than a disabled person being able to >>>>> undertake convenient journey rightfully in railways. >>>>> >>>>> UGC compandium of circulars is one more example. >>>>> So is arbitrariness in issuing railway concession tickets by ER clerks. >>>>> So, formal and informal victimization of the disabled is a fact of >>>>> life. >>>>> We must, protest, at least by employing all available means against >>>>> such >>>>> an >>>>> indignified life. >>>>> Judiciary, executive consultations etc. can, to some extent, mitigate >>>>> the >>>>> issues. Public agitation is also one of the potent means, but is easier >>>>> said >>>>> than done. >>>>> Mind you, I too perceive myself as one of the passive viewers/victims >>>>> of >>>>> this foolish process of humanity. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Rajesh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of subi k.s. >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:52 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] "My experiance in travel. >>>>> >>>>> On 6/10/09, tharani <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Dear A I friends: >>>>>> >>>>>> While I travel through train in disable coach the normal person also >>>>>> get >>>>> in >>>>>> to the disable coach. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not only single person, group of the person or family group member. >>>>>> >>>>>> This incident will be held on the starting stage. So, We don't have >>>>>> enif >>>>>> place. >>>>>> >>>>>> While traveling train they lay down on the flore and they start to >>>>>> smoak.after starting station there is no chance to get in to the >>>>>> disable >>>>>> person inside of the cabin. If the disable person nock the door the >>>>>> normal >>>>>> person keep silent and they asked are you having any concision form >>>>>> and >>>>> show >>>>>> it to us. >>>>>> >>>>>> Finally the disable person missed the train. In this occasion what we >>>>>> will >>>>>> do?PLS give your cooperation for to take a good jerny. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for ever: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> B. 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