there is nor reasoning. so you wont have one!!
At 01:51 PM 5/24/2010, you wrote:
Why should he or she produce a document which no one is required to
produce? If any customer is not producing such a document and if I am
asked purely because I am disabled, is that not 'discrimination'? I am
at a loss for reasoning here. Plese help me.

Subramani



-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:26 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking

Dear Sir,

The customer is trying to satisfy his ego. Otherwise, he should have
produced NOC or any such endorsement from his parrents.  The problems
might
have been solved. Details of this blind  customer have not been
discussed in
the list. There are number of blind customers availing ATM, cheque book
and
other facilities from PNB.

Regards.
Kamal Verma
----- Original Message -----
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking


>        Who is bloody branch manager to sit in judgment over rules
framed
> by regulator?
> If he/she has to question them, let him represent to central bank or
> government, for the time, rules are there, he has to comply with them.
> If we give in to approach of petty functionaries thwarting rules,
there
> will be no rule of law in this country.
> Moreover, why does anybody require banking facilities? So, there is no

> rational behind this question.
> And, about ATM, bank is not responsible anyway for misuse or loss.
> Check book is another matter, and I have time and again pointed out
the
> lacunae in the policy pertaining to it.
> So, we can not hold bankers denying it to fault.
>
> Regards
>
> "Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create

> Him."
>
>                                        --Arthur C. Clarke
>
> (Rajesh Asudani)
>
> Assistant General Manager,
> Reserve Bank of India
> Nagpur
> 09420397185
> O: 0712 2806676
> Res: 0712 2591349
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal
Verma
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:51 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
>
> Hello,
>
> Noone has to deform such a pioneer corporate like PNB. RBI framed
rules
> and
> circulars, but being a Branch Manager, it seems impractical to issue
ATM
> card to the blind customers. Let me argue the matter with the blind
> customer
> who is in need of ATM card and cheque book. Why does he need ATM card
and
> cheque book and how shall I issue? Let him convince me.
>
> Thanks.
> Kamal Verma
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mahesh Panicker" <maheshspanic...@gmail.com>
> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
>
>
>> dear Mr. Verma. .
>> surprised to know someone has something nice to say about PNB. I
>> haven't find many other organizations as obnoxious as PNB is. I had a
>> real struggle to get my ATM card from PNB. in fact, I'd contacted the
>> higher authorities as well. but at the end of the day, I had to
>> complaint to the RBI, and also to the NHRC and the government of
India
>> ministry of finance to get my card. after all that, I got my card
>> after a good 7 months. recently too, I had a terrible time with the
>> PNB, when I applied for a check book. as I already mentioned, this
>> happened after I submitted the RBI circular on the rights of the
>> disabled on banking facility.
>> and then we all have the story of a visually challenged being asked
to
>> provide a NOC from the parents to avail an ATM card. have you heard
of
>> anything more obnoxious?
>> banks in general, and PNB in particular have a horrible record when
it
>> comes to acknowledging the rightful claims of the disabled. so we
have
>> to take the struggle against such horrible institutional nonsense to
>> all possible levels including the media.
>>
>> On 5/24/10, Kamal Verma <kamalve...@pnb.co.in> wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I am surprised to note various complaints against PNB in this list.
I am
>>> availing all the banking facilities, such as cheque book, debit
card,
>>> credit
>>> card, internet banking, etc. PNB does not ignore the blind
community,
>>> hence
>>> if any problem occurs, it may be communicated to the higher
authorities
>>> of
>>> PNB with the name and designation of the concerned officer.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Kamal Verma
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mahesh Panicker"
>>> <maheshspanic...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 8:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > banking is one area where there is a lot of discrimination against
the
>>> > visually challenged. opening an account itself isn't any easier,
but
>>> > ones you open an account, getting the common banking facilities
like
>>> > ATM cards and check book is an absolute nightmare.I've an account
with
>>> > the Punjab National Bank, and I had my struggle of my life to get
my
>>> > ATM card issued. it took me a good 7 month for the same to be
done.
>>> > the struggle for the check book was also on similar lines, and
>>> > although I've got the checkbook, it has come with a lot of
conditions.
>>> > most people on access india can tell you similar stories. I
believe
>>> > some of our own members have taken a lot of initiative in this
regard,
>>> > and the 2008 RBI order is an achievement because of such
initiatives.
>>> >
>>> > On 5/23/10, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > blind persons should organize and conduct an agitation before
the
>>> banking
>>> > > division and finance ministry. this is the only solution.
>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "rahul cherian"
>>> > > <rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com>
>>> > > To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> > > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:47 PM
>>> > > Subject: [AI] Difficulties in Banking
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > > Folks,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I have been asked to prepare a comprehensive note on the
issues
>>> > > > that
>>> > > persons
>>> > > > with visual impairment face with banking in India, especially
in >
>>> leading
>>> > > > banks such as ICICI, HDFC and SBI, along with possible
solutions.
>>> > > > This
>>> > > note
>>> > > > has been asked for by some senior people I know personally in
>>> > > > these
>>> > > >  >
>>> banks.
>>> > > > If anyone would like to help me prepare this note do let me
know
>>> > > > at
>>> the
>>> > > > earliest. If anyone has the details of any such note which has

>>> > > > been
>>> > > prepared
>>> > > > earlier do forward that to me.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Best regards,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Rahul Cherian
>>> > > > Inclusive Planet
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On 23 May 2010 12:39, Srinivasu Chakravarthula
>>> > > <sriniv...@srinivasu.org>wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Hi Dinesh,
>>> > > > > Can you provide us with little more details about your
problem
>>> > > > > with
>>> > > > > Yahoo! Messenger so as to help you better?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Regards,
>>> > > > > Srinivasu
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > On 5/23/10, dinesh shukla <dineshshukla2...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>> > > > > >     dear friends I am not able to chatte with the help of
>>> > > > > > Yahoo
>>> > > > > massenger.
>>> > > > > > please help me to do  the same telling me the steps.
>>> > > > > > Dinesh
>>> > > Shukla.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to >
>>> > > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith
>>> > > > > > the subject unsubscribe.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any
other >
>>> > > > > >  > >
>>> changes,
>>> > > > > please
>>> > > > > > visit the list home page at
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > >
>>>
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i
n
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > --
>>> > > > > Sent from my mobile device
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Best regards,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Srinivasu Chakravarthula
>>> > > > > Mobile: +91 990 081 0881
>>> > > > > Website: http://www.srinivasu.org
>>> > > > > Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/sriniworld/
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to
>>> > > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject
>>> > > unsubscribe.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other
>>> changes,
>>> > > > > please visit the list home page at
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > >
>>>
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i
n
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > To unsubscribe send a message to
>>> > > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject
>>> > > unsubscribe.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other
>>> > > > changes,
>>> > > please visit the list home page at
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>>
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i
n
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > To unsubscribe send a message to
>>> > > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject
>>> > > unsubscribe.
>>> > >
>>> > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other
>>> > > changes,
>>> please
>>> > > visit the list home page at
>>> > >
>>>
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i
n
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Mahesh S. Panicker
>>> > C123;
>>> > Dayanand Colony;
>>> > Lajpat Nagar4;
>>> >
>>> > New delhi india.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > To unsubscribe send a message to
>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject
>>> unsubscribe.
>>> >
>>> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other
changes,
>>> please visit the list home page at
>>> >
>>>
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i
n
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> DISCLAIMER:
>>>
>>>
>>> The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the
addressee.
>>> It
>>> is
>>> confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this email by
>>> anyone
>>> else is unauthorized. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or any
>>> action
>>> taken by anyone other than by the intended recipient is prohibited
and
>>> may
>>> be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient then kindly
delete
>>> the
>>> mail from your system. Any opinion or views expressed in this mail
may
>>> not
>>> necessarily reflect that of Punjab National Bank. The bank considers
>>> unencrypted email as an insecure mode of communication.
>>>
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe send a message to
>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject
>>> unsubscribe.
>>>
>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other
changes,
>>> please
>>> visit the list home page at
>>>
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i
n
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mahesh S. Panicker
>> C123;
>> Dayanand Colony;
>> Lajpat Nagar4;
>>
>> New delhi india.
>>
>>
>>
>> To unsubscribe send a message to
accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
>> with the subject unsubscribe.
>>
>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
>> please visit the list home page at
>>
>>
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i
n
>>
>
>
>
> DISCLAIMER:
>
>
> The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the addressee.
It
> is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this email by

> anyone else is unauthorized. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or
any
> action taken by anyone other than by the intended recipient is
prohibited
> and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient then kindly

> delete the mail from your system. Any opinion or views expressed in
this
> mail may not necessarily reflect that of Punjab National Bank. The
bank
> considers unencrypted email as an insecure mode of communication.
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe send a message to
accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
> with the subject unsubscribe.
>
> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
> please visit the list home page at
>
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i
n
>
> Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential
and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they
are
> addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination,
use,
> review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained
in
> this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited.
If
> you have received this email by error,  please notify us by return
e-mail
> or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and
any
> attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments
for
> the presence of viruses. The Bank accepts no liability for any damage
> caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe send a message to
accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
> with the subject unsubscribe.
>
> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
> please visit the list home page at
>
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i
n
>



DISCLAIMER:


The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the addressee.
It is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this email
by anyone else is unauthorized. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or
any action taken by anyone other than by the intended recipient is
prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient
then kindly delete the mail from your system. Any opinion or views
expressed in this mail may not necessarily reflect that of Punjab
National Bank. The bank considers unencrypted email as an insecure mode
of communication.



To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
please visit the list home page at

http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i
n



To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

with warm regards
       Mahendra Galani
window's live ID mahendragal...@hotmail.com       skype ID chintu3886
phone +4314943149 mobile +4369910366055,
address Herbst strasse 101.16.1 Vienna Austria Europe
---------------------------------------------------------------------



To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with 
the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
 http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

Reply via email to